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Quote Of The Day.Saturday, March 16, 2002Gena’s on Nyquil Too. But at least I don’t post after I take it. For the record, Communism (the Left’s gift that kept on giving) was defeated due to the combined efforts of Pope John Paul II and Ronald Reagan, with an assist from Maggie Thatcher. The Pope’s vocal support for Lech Walesa’s Solidarity movement undermined the East Bloc from within and opened the first great fissure in the Iron Curtain. Communism had lost its moral sway amongst the people, and His Holiness shrewdly maneuvered the pro-democracy movement into their political consciousness. Communism, imposed from above (by leftists), was overthrown from below (by conservatives). As goes Poland, so goes Eastern Europe. Enter Ronald Reagan. Reagan stepped up defense spending, forcing the Soviet Union to do the same. The Soviet economy was nowhere near as strong as ours, as Reagan knew, and the strain resulting from keeping up with the Americans broke the Soviets’ back. Who knew the fatal flaw to Communism is the fact that there’s no money in it? Thatcher kept the Europeans on the straight and narrow and shored up America’s allies. The Soviets cracked under the economic onslaught of American industry and the moral onslaught of Pope’s public support of the peaceful opposition movement. How many divisions has the Pope? Plenty.posted by Lee Ann on Saturday, March 16, 2002 | link One Should not Read The last two potshots and think that I am somehow blind to the sizable crowd of idiots standing around my side of the ideological camp. I became personally acquainted with many of them during my wonderful and memorable years at UNC. There are substantive and important things wrong with the left, but its basic principles - respect for human rights, liberty and equality remain sound. Not all people on the left hold to these principles - think of the feminists of UNLV for example - but their left isn't my left, and I disown them all. Does this automatically mean the right is morally superior? I don't know. If my roof is leaking and my house is crumbling does it mean my neighbor's house is better? Perhaps. Unless of course my neighbor's house happens to be falling down. posted by Gena on Saturday, March 16, 2002 | link I'll admit my historical ignorance If only I had paid more attention to my high school history teachers, I'd know that FDR was a conservative, and that the right dealt the death blow to Communism. More importantly I'd know what specifically this death blow was. And I'd know that Hitler was a leftist radical, and fascism a far left ideology. I'd certainly not be going around with vague and foggy notions about how FDR was despised by the right, Hitler was a member of the right, fascism was an ideology of the right, and Communism - at least in Eastern Europe and Russia - managed to defeat itself, with the help of WWII and the physical and financial damage it did. posted by Gena on Saturday, March 16, 2002 | link Ah, yes those lefties Supporting segregation, the inequality of women, and the discrimination against Jews. No wonder they're morally bankrupt. Oh, wait. That was the right. No wonder one needs the ability to make moral distinctions. posted by Gena on Saturday, March 16, 2002 | link Over 1200 People who were Detained in the US after September 11 had their civil rights violated according to Amnesty International. Among other things, they were deprived of counsel, held without charge or even being told what they were suspected of, kept in isolation, and chained up. Some people probably think that's just fine, but I don't and for two reasons.
1. This is my country and I'm proud of its Constitution and Bill of Rights, and more than that of the fact that these documents are enforced by the courts. In other words, I am proud to live in a nation of laws which first of all posits that all people have rights and secondly makes sure that they keep them. People who think they can toss the Constitution out the window for expediency's sake are an affront and a disgrace, and things like the above more than make me angry; they offend me. A few posts down Lee Ann accused me of being more outraged over America's treatment of the detainees, than I would be about the treatment meted out to an American pilot captured by Iraq. She might be right - though objectively speaking I think I would be equally outraged by the ill treatment of anyone. I would however be slightly more likely to post about the bad things this government does, and that for the simple reason that I don't live in Iraq and am not in any way responsible for its government or its laws - thank God. Given the fact, however, that this is a democracy, I am as a citizen at least partially responsible for what happens here, and the responsibility of criticism of the government is always one which should be taken more seriously than the responsibility of praise. And in this case the government deserves criticism of the harshest sort; for it has evinced its disrespect for the very principles upon which this nation was founded and which have made it great. To me that is an act of desecration far greater than any burning of the flag.
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2. All hail the idiot test. Who is really ready to trust the government to do things like this? Who really thinks all the people rounded up and deprived of their liberty and their rights had actually done something? Who thinks the government should be able to arrest and detain people with impunity? We are after all talking about the people who just issued Mohammed Atta a student visa to go to flight school, an act of idiocy and incompetency which illustrates why we need Constitutional safeguards in the first place. The government is not infallible, and it does make mistakes; and putting your liberty and your life in its hands in the belief that it doesn't is
And just as a side note: Remember the nice thing I said about George Bush? Well, I take it back. Israel and foreign aide don't quite make up for this. posted by Gena on Saturday, March 16, 2002 | link -------------------- Friday, March 15, 2002This Guy’s Wrecking the Grade Curve. The Warliberal is making the rest of us look foolish with his sharp analyses of his own political beliefs. Very Impressive. Mac’s a credit to the Axis of Weevil.posted by Lee Ann on Friday, March 15, 2002 | link The Left Wakes Up. Michael Walzer writes an excellent article on the function of the left in the world’s only superpower. He clearly delineates the moral failings of the left and has many good ideas on how to rectify those failings. Quite frankly this is one of the most insightful articles to come from the left in some time. This may be a long post because there is so much of value in the essay. Off we go: “It denies one of the most basic and best understood moral distinctions: between premeditated murder and unintended killing. And the denial isn’t accidental, as if the people making it just forgot about, or didn’t know about, the everyday moral world. The denial is willful: unintended killing by Americans in Afghanistan counts as murder. This can’t be true anywhere else, for anybody else.” See, even the leftists agree with me. There are moral distinctions to be made, and, no matter how difficult, they must be made. “Many left intellectuals live in America like internal aliens, refusing to identify with their fellow citizens, regarding any hint of patriotic feeling as politically incorrect.” . . . “In fact, when we blame America, we also lift ourselves above the blameworthy (other) Americans. The left sets itself apart. Whatever America is doing in the world isn’t our doing. In some sense, of course, that is true. The defeat of fascism in the middle years of the twentieth century and of communism in the last years were not our doing.” This is one of the main problems facing the left. If you refuse to identify with your fellow man, how can you claim to be concerned for his welfare? How can you even know what his welfare is? The voluntary alienation of the left from mainstream society means that the left has lost a great deal of its relevance. Blaming America has become a status symbol in the eyes of the left, a sort of ideological SUV for the chattering classes. Until the left can view America and the rest of the world impartially, fairly, and honestly they will lack the moral integrity necessary to any “liberal” politics. “Yes, we are entitled to blame the others whenever they are blameworthy; in fact, it is only when we do that, when we denounce, say, the authoritarianism of third world governments, that we will find our true comrades--the local opponents of the maximal leaders and military juntas, who are often waiting for our recognition and support. If we value democracy, we have to be prepared to defend it, at home, of course, but not only there.” The moral blindness of the left has been its Achilles’ Heel for some time. They will constantly point out the relatively minor failings of America and the West while ignoring the blatant atrocities committed by Third World leftists. Part of this tendency has been an unwillingness to criticize those belonging to the “oppressed” races. Well, it’s time to treat those people like thinking adult human beings and hold them accountable for their actions. Anything less is condescending and, yes, racist. This concludes my short critique of Walzer’s essay. I know you have a choice of blogs and I thank you for flying Spinsters.com. Seriously, read this article. Read it several times. This should spark quite a lively debate amongst the lefties. If it doesn’t, there’s no hope for them. posted by Lee Ann on Friday, March 15, 2002 | link YEEHAW!!! The clarion call of fourth wave feminism! Down with the ancien regime of repressive gender feminism! Arise ifeminism! What is “ifeminism”? It’s the belief that “every human being, simply by being human, had an equal right to his or her own body and the labor thereof. In short, they demanded equality under just law.” Individualist feminism is the way of the future, if “feminism” is to have a future. The current “feminist” mantra of victimhood, misandry, and leftist zealotry has isolated the movement not only from one half of the human species (men), but has also abandoned and now persecutes any woman who does not blindly follow their received agenda. There is no place in the current feminist movement for stay-at-home mothers, housewives, conservatives, or the traditionally religious. “Feminism” in its current manifestation promotes the political agenda of a self-appointed elite, which seeks to influence policy to augment their own power and to abridge the freedoms of the majority of women. The new feminism, “ifeminism”, is really a return to the original feminism. Ifeminism calls for equal treatment before the law. It calls for a law that is fair to both sexes. No discrimination, no special privileges. This is real feminism. This is a feminist movement based on the idea that women are equally rational, responsible human beings. posted by Lee Ann on Friday, March 15, 2002 | link Win One for the Tipper Tipper Gore wants to run for senate. This is a bad move. First of all, one member of the “Bore” family is enough. Second, she has no political history, so this strikes me as a “Vote for Tipper and Let Al Do It” situation. (Ooh, gratuitous allusion to George Wallace, big time Bama points for me!) Third, the only thing she’s famous for is the infamous Parent’s Music Resource Center (PMRC). Somehow I don’t think a history of music censorship will fly in this day and age. I hope she doesn’t turn into Tennessee’s Hillary! posted by Lee Ann on Friday, March 15, 2002 | link You Are One of Us Now! Ha, ha, ha! I knew you couldn’t resist the awesome power of W. for long. So, he’s sharper than you thought, huh? Plus he has that mischievous twinkle in his eye, not to mention that sexy little butt. posted by Lee Ann on Friday, March 15, 2002 | link I never thought I'd say this But I'm actually starting to like to George Bush, although "like" might be a bit strong of a word. Let us simply say that I'm starting to slowly accommodate myself to the idea that Mr. Bush is not going to blow up the world, or cause other people to blow it up for him. Taking steps to end poverty is a positive move, both from a humanitarian and a practical standpoint, and for that reason Bush deserves to be commended for his plan to increase foreign aid, as well as for his proposal that half the loans the World Bank now makes be converted into grants.Poverty doesn't make people criminals or terrorists, but it certainly helps them along the way; and while eliminating poverty would not eliminate crime, it would make an exception of the criminal. posted by Gena on Friday, March 15, 2002 | link The Identities of the Prisoners Held in US detention centers are being revealed. From the looks of things, Al Queda is a poster organization for the perils of foreign travel. Leave England to go to a wedding in Pakistan, wind up a terrorism suspect in Cuba. Call your travel agent now. posted by Gena on Friday, March 15, 2002 | link Hans Georg Gadamer Died yesterday at the age of 102 in Heidelberg. As the faz points out, Gadamer was not only a great and highly orginal philosopher, but also the last representative of a world now, perhaps, irretrievably gone.
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posted by Lee Ann on Thursday, March 14, 2002 | link And in the name of democracy just look What ICANN resolved. Or better yet just look at what it said: "The Board is not persuaded that global elections are the only or the best means of achieving meaningful public representation or the informed participation of Internet users in the ICANN process." Letting people choose their own representatives. Hah! How undemocratic is that? Of course, someone might pose the question as to why the Board wants to get rid of the publicly elected representatives. Now, let me see; what could the reason possibly be? posted by Gena on Thursday, March 14, 2002 | link Should Governments Control the Internet? Let me think about that for a moment. Um, no. Do governments want to control the Internet? You bet they do. Are governments and corporations going to try to grab control of it. Well, let me see. A medium which puts a printing press with the power of world wide distribution in the hands of everyone, a medium where people say what they think, because there's no one looking over their shoulder quoting the party line, and where all those nasty little secrets certain people would rather hide can travel instantly around the world, let me think real hard about what the future actions of Big Brother might be. And while I'm trying to puzzle this out, you can read the Washington Post's condescending, snotty little article about the director of ICANN's modest proposal. Ah, if only it were satire. posted by Gena on Thursday, March 14, 2002 | link Hate to say it, but maybe even evil slime Osama had it right About the Saudi government, that is. Any government which asserts that Jews use teenagers' blood for purim pastries deserves to fall right now. It should certainly not be propped up by the US, or worse yet described as our "friend." We support these people and then wonder why we have trouble in the Middle East. Maybe we should try supporting people who actually stand for democracy and democratic values, rather than those who simply state their willingness to jump on our bandwagon in return for cash. posted by Gena on Thursday, March 14, 2002 | link -------------------- Wednesday, March 13, 2002Jesuits Delenda Est. I suppose it isn’t unheard of for Catholicism to be viciously suppressed, but it is unconscionable for the Jesuits to be doing it. The Jesuit order, once the faithful defenders of the Catholic Church, have of late become the strongest enemy of the Faith. The Jesuit order has become a den of liberation theology, sexual deviance, and disobedience from the Vatican. To make it worse, they are now actively destroying the nations best traditional Catholic Great Books program, the St. Ignatius Institute. They have even exiled the great Fr. Fessio to the Siberia of a tiny hospital chaplain post to prevent him from heading a new two-year Catholic humanist college. This is “liberal” tyranny at its worst. The marginalizing of traditional Catholics within the Church is a travesty, and will destroy the American Catholic Church from within if it isn’t stopped. I am a life-long Catholic and can’t remember the last time a priest preached real, traditional Catholic doctrine in his homily. I love God, His Church, and His Pope and Cardinals, but I am intellectually and morally frustrated by the Fr. Flapdoodles and Bishop Bunnyhops that keep plaguing my parish. The Jesuit order is merely the most prominent example of what is wrong with the Church in America. Either you are faithful to the Church’s teachings or you aren’t. There should be no place for Cafeteria Catholics in the Church hierarchy or in the Jesuits. If that means a Second Suppression is in order, then so be it. If the Jesuits think there is no place for the illustrious tradition of Catholic humanism in a university, the Jesuits ought to be stripped of their teaching authority. There is no place in academia for those who suppress intellectual dissent. This is why non-Catholics and atheists should be as angry about this as any Catholics. A university should expose students to the greatest achievements of mankind and foster open intellectual debate and dissent. Catholic humanism represents one of the greatest and most influential philosophical traditions in Western Civilization. Should students be denied exposure to it because it runs contrary to someone’s rigid political ideologies?posted by Lee Ann on Wednesday, March 13, 2002 | link Public Art. I hate public art. Don’t get me wrong, I love art. I love real art. I love art that is entrancing, uplifting, inspiring, or soul-enlarging. Heck, I even love art that is just plain beautiful. The human soul has a need for beauty and for aspiration. Too bad urban bureaucrats are determined that that need go unfulfilled. Public art is a hideous misuse of the word “art.” Public art is almost always pure dreck. The age of great public art is over. Now they will put up any old twisted hunk of steel, give it a name, and, voila, art. Here in the Magic City we have public art that is a big red steel thing that looks like a cigarette being stubbed out. Oh how the soul soars at that one. Public art is the half-thought out, over-priced, left-over hash of good intentions, art school pretensions, and self-important zoning boards. Is it a law that public art has to be designed by toddlers in a Nyquil trance? Seems like it. Rant inspired by Paul Greenberg. posted by Lee Ann on Wednesday, March 13, 2002 | link Israelis Denounce ID Numbers. An Israeli lawmaker decries the writing of identification numbers on the arms of Palestinians. Gee, the Israelis seem pretty vocal when they protest abuses of Palestinian civil rights. You never hear about the Palestinians being concerned with the rights (or lives) of Israelis. posted by Lee Ann on Wednesday, March 13, 2002 | link Wahoo! Praise the Lord God Almighty, His only Begotten Son, the Blessed Virgin and Dave! The Spinsters have finally figured out how to permanently link to other sites. Check out the sidebar. A hard won achievement from two techno-lazy pundettes. posted by Lee Ann on Wednesday, March 13, 2002 | link What The F---!!! Gena your reply was so incoherent and so oblivious to the points I was making as to be unworthy of a reply. Seriously, are you on crack? posted by Lee Ann on Wednesday, March 13, 2002 | link In Summation: Targeting civilians and killing them is wrong, and for that the Palestinians should be condemned; but the things the Israelis have done to the Palestinians are also wrong, and for that the Israelis should be condemned. Apportioning moral superiority does not nothing to stop the violence; it only legitimates one side or the other in using it. I haven't argued that the Israelis are evil, because I don't think they are. I also haven't argued that because I want to see the violence stopped, and two groups each believing the other the incarnation of diabolical evil will go on killing each other forever. Israel's method of defending itself has so far only provoked more attacks. That is something to think about, before asserting the justice or necessity of a military response. Beating into submission is one thing. Revenge is another. And defense is something else; for defense implies a desire for the violence to end, and the best method of defense is therefore the one most likely to end the violence. And for that reason Sharon's method of "defense" sucks. posted by Gena on Wednesday, March 13, 2002 | link Israelis and Palestinians: A Philosophical Problem If I walked up and hit you with a brick and you hit me back with a bat, then I would be at fault and bear full responsibility for both of our injuries, for the simple reason that I initiated the violence. Now there's an interesting philosophical proposition. I would argue, however, that the apportionment of responsibility would rest on three other things which you fail to mention.
1. Whether I acted without reason or provocation
This assumes, of course, that your wanting to hit me with the bat would be because you wanted to defend yourself and stop the violence. If you wanted revenge, that would be another matter. Of course when the police came to cart us both off, you would most likely claim self-defense, even if you had really only wanted to knock the living daylights out of me, because as you correctly point out, defending yourself is legitimate, whereas seeking revenge is not. It's the difference between freedom and jail. So, if in court you could prove that I just randomly walked up to you and hit you with a brick, that I showed no responsiveness to reason, but only a diabolical need to strike you again, and that you had every reason to believe that a well placed blow to the temple would knock me out and end the violence, you would not be held responsible for the incident.
Now what if on cross examination, the following came out:
You and I had had a property dispute, at which time I attacked you and you took over my home by force. Many of my family members fled, and some of those who did not were forcibly expelled by you. You confiscated the property of these family members, did not compensate them for it, and refused to allow them to return. Those of us who stayed wound up living in the barn until you and I had another fight, which resulted in even more of my family members fleeing or being expelled, and the rest of us being exiled to the garden shed where we lived under your control. Conditions in the garden shed were crowded, and substandard; but parts it had potential, although this was compromised by the fact of the limited availability of beds and linens. Now it so happened that your house was getting overcrowded due to all the people who wanted to come and live with you. You therefore decided to encourage some of these people to settle the shed, where they forced many of my family members out of their beds - without compensating them - and siphoned off the best linens, leaving the dregs for us. When I decided to protest your continuing occupation of the shed by throwing rocks at you, you responded by shooting bullets at me. The situation continued for some time, but finally we decided to negotiate. I agreed to let you have the house and the barn, in return for the right to the shed and for the right of sovereignty over it. For this I acknowledged your right to be in the house, and you recognized my right to be in the shed.
Then almost a decade passed. You and I continued to negotiate, but somehow I never got the promised sovereignty over the shed, and somehow your forces within the shed failed to disappear, and the settlers kept coming, displacing more and more of my family members, and taking more and more linens, and my exiled family members never got to return. And you would do things too. Like use torture, or shoot us when we tried to cross the border between the shed and the house, or round us up, or even lure our children up to the border of certain sections of the shed by using racist taunts and then shoot them when they threw stones. If disputes broke out between us and the bed settlers you would take the settlers' side and assist them in engaging in bloody retaliations against us. You and I went to the negotiating table one more time, and once again you offered less than you had before, and this time I refused to accept. I staged a demonstration and you fired live ammunition into the crowd. Then one of your leaders, who would become your main leader, went to one of our holiest and most disputed sites, which he knew or at least should have known would be seen as an act of insult and provocation. And there you were standing in the doorway, and I saw you, and; I finally just "walked up and hit you with a brick," at which time you hit me with a bat, only your bat was much bigger than my brick, so where I knocked in your nose, you knocked in my skull. This only made me angrier and it made other people angry as well, so we kept hitting you with bricks, and you kept hitting us with bats. And when one of our neighbors, who had been hostile to you in the past, promised to recognize your legitimacy and normalize relations with you, if you would give us back the barn and end the fighting, we said we were willing to stop the violence and negotiate, but you said no. In fact, you said that the situation was all our fault and that we were hitting you with bricks simply because we hated you. You said this while giving lip service to our grievances, which somehow were not enough to give you any responsibility or role in ending the violence. Instead we were simply terrorists, reduced to the level of spoiled or willful children - negotiate with them now, and you'll teach them that acting this way is a way of getting what they want. And never mind that all during those years of negotiations, we didn't attack you, and that the current violence began at a concrete time and for concrete reasons. To you we're morally repugnant scum, who may have grievances, but whose grievances don't dent your moral own superiority at all, and you hold up your own shining and free life in the manor house and on the estate as proof of your justness, and of our lack of it. And thus you sit back and pontificate about our taking responsibility, but you make no move to take it yourself. You say we could choose not to support terrorists. Well, that is true, but you could also choose not to support the things you support, and you could also acknowledge that our support of terrorists has a direct link to the things you support, and that stopping your support of such things would stop our support of terrorism. You could acknowledge all of that, but instead you paint yourself as "good" and us I suppose as "evil" and affirm your right to do nothing other than slaughter us with "precision" bats, which somehow kill parents, children, and foreign journalists, as well as the people you're supposedly aiming at.
And if I were on the jury, I would decide the following.
Gena is guilty of hitting Lee Ann with a brick, but Lee Ann is also guilty of hitting Gena with a bat. Both Gena and Lee Ann are wrong. Both Gena and Lee Ann could behave differently. Both Gena and Lee have the obligation to behave differently. Both Gena and Lee Ann have the obligation to take steps to stop the violence. And since this is a court of law, rather than an international incident, both Gena and Lee Ann are going to jail. posted by Gena on Wednesday, March 13, 2002 | link Wow just look at all the liberals Left-wing radicals, peaceniks, and communists who agree with me about the Israelis and Palestinians. Oh, wait. It's the Bush Administration. posted by Gena on Wednesday, March 13, 2002 | link Woman's Dog Eats Neighbor, Woman Expresses Surprise This story is why I have a dog exactly the size of a very large cat. Or maybe it's why I don't adopt white supremacist gang members and raise their dogs as my own. Or name the dogs "Bane" and "Hera" for that matter. Or testify in court that I am so very sorry that my dog ate my neighbor. Just random speculation, of course. posted by Gena on Wednesday, March 13, 2002 | link -------------------- Tuesday, March 12, 2002Sowell Patrol. Thomas Sowell on political shibboleths. Sowell highlights the damage done to political thought and discourse when people rely on shibboleths, or “litmus tests.” Read it and think about your political ideas, and think about how many could qualify as shibboleths. I am, and it can be scary how easy it is to fall into unthinking rigidity. We develop opinions and forget to keep thinking about them. A lot of that is laziness, but that intellectual laziness takes a toll.posted by Lee Ann on Tuesday, March 12, 2002 | link Lee Ann’s Official Opinion on Israel and Palestine. They deserve each other, screw ‘em all. Just kidding. In response to your supremely confusing, and dead wrong, analysis of my alleged position, I will try to give my real position. I will use small words so you won’t be confused. People who deliberately target civilians for death are morally inferior to those who target military, paramilitary and terrorist targets. Civilian deaths are tragic and should be avoided whenever humanly possible. The Israelis do this, the Palestinians do not. The Palestinians cannot simultaneously demand peace while supporting organizations that have declared war on Israeli civilians. Reign in Al Aqsa, take the revolving doors out of your prisons, and then we’ll talk. Appeasing Terrorists only leads to more terror. If you give in to Palestinian demands because they are killing innocent people, you are clearly saying that if they want something else later, they just have to kill more innocent people. It’s the same as paying ransom for hostages; if you do it, the terrorists will take the money, buy more weapons, and take more hostages. If you reward the Palestinians for supporting terror, they will support more terror. If you doubt this, look at the illustrious history of peace through appeasement. The Israelis are entitled to use limited, targeted force against terrorists and their supporters. They should avoid civilian casualties whenever possible, but they are not responsible for the fate those used as human shields by unscrupulous thugs. I never said the Israelis could use whatever force they wanted, but they are entitled to self-defense. What then do you propose that Israel do when it is the victim of a terrorist attack? If the Palestinians won’t reign in their terrorists, what recourse does Israel have? How many people have to die before Israel can respond with force? Israel is not obliged to endanger its existence as a state, or the lives of its citizens to keep strictly to the dictates of a treaty. A treaty is in force so long as it is held to by its signatories. When one signatory has violated a treaty to the extent the Palestinians have, it is ridiculous to condemn the Israelis for responding to the reality on the ground. The Israelis signed a treaty guaranteeing the Palestinians their own state, territories, and the whole shebang on the condition that the Palestinians crack down on their terror organizations and end the murderous violence against Israeli citizens. Instead Arafat ratcheted up the violence. In 1921, the U.S., France, Germany and Britain signed the Kellogg-Briand Pact, outlawing war. When Hitler invaded Poland, should the other Pact signatories have mindlessly held to the treaty they signed? posted by Lee Ann on Tuesday, March 12, 2002 | link Gena Lewis, Useful Idiot. After your quite moving deliberate misreading of my posts, I was flattered that you chose to attack me on positions I never took. I also delighted in your deriding me for not taking positions that I clearly DID take, several times. I several times condemned Israeli atrocities committed against Palestinians. I brought up several of their main grievances in the first place. I assumed that a thinking person would deduce that Israeli atrocities would be Palestinian grievances. Operative words “thinking person” and “deduce.” However, having a reason is not the same as having an excuse. Germany had legitimate grievances after WWI, but that doesn’t excuse the behavior that caused WWII. There is a difference between an aggressor and a defender. If I walked up and hit you with a brick and you hit me back with a bat, then I would be at fault and bear full responsibility for both of our injuries, for the simple reason that I initiated the violence. If I attack you, I can’t very well complain that you are defending yourself. “Leaving the violence aside, the Palestinians do have legitimate grievances, which it is the responsibility of the Israelis, as the occupying force, and thus as the holder of the cards, to address.” Um, no. You can’t “leave the violence aside.” Many of the Palestinian grievances are the result of security measures that Israel was forced to adopt to defend itself from Palestinian violence. Take the road blocks and other travel restrictions. Yes, they are a hassle, but how else is Israel to prevent terrorists from entering heavily populated civilian areas? Maybe the Palestinian should take some responsibility and address some of Israel’s grievances. Like suicide bombers, for instance. “There is a difference in reacting negatively to someone because you dislike them, and reacting that way because that person is doing concrete and harmful things to you.” Thank you Captain Obvious. This is actually Israel’s position. The Palestinians kill Israelis because they don’t like Jews. The Israelis enact repressive security measures because the Palestinians are killing them. I would think this would be self-evident. “In other words, they're stuck with each other, and for that reason who's worse, or who's more guilty is about as important as a flea on a dying dog.” This is a nice way of avoiding tough questions. Questions like, how can there be permanent peace between a country (Israel) that wants peace and a people (the Palestinians) who don’t? If the Palestinians wanted peace, they would make real efforts to reign in the terrorists acting in their name. “What is important is that the two groups find a way of living with each other - fairly, equitably, and non-violently - and that they be willing to do so. The longer the violence continues, the less likely that is to happen.” Tell this to the Palestinians. Every Israeli action you complain about has been in direct response to a bloody Palestinian terror attack. The Israelis are not trying to expel the Palestinians from the region. They would be happy to live in peace with them. Palestinians can become Israeli citizens and enjoy full rights, just like any other citizen. It’s the Palestinians that want to drive every Jew out of the Levant. posted by Lee Ann on Tuesday, March 12, 2002 | link With a Ho Ho Ho and a Ha Ha Ha. “The point is that its editorial page is one of the most uniformly and identifiably conservative in the country, which means that it is made up of people who see the world a certain way and want to make damn certain that everyone else sees it that way too.” Actually, the WSJ commentary page is the ONLY mainstream newspaper Op-ed page that leans conservative. I hope this means that your skepticism is extended to the hard left New York Times, and the merely liberal papers like the Washington Post, L. A. Times, Boston Globe, and virtually every newspaper in the United States. Are you implying that liberals aren’t out to make everyone see things their way? Then why on earth do they purge conservatives from the news room? You do know that only about 4% of all journalist say they have are conservative. By the way, the WSJ’s news content is as left-liberal as any other paper’s in the country. Only their opinion page stands out as the ONLY conservative one. Comparing the WSJ opinion page to the Nation is to deliberately set up a straw man. The Nation is a political magazine on par with Frontpage or the Freepers. WSJ is like the New York Times. Unless, as I said before, you consider them to be ideologues too. “And people who have an overt ideological agenda are not reliable because they tend to decide the facts on the basis of their opinions rather than deciding their opinions based on the facts, and they are furthermore oftentimes not above skewering or eliminating or even inventing facts in order to further their agenda.” You are preaching to the choir here. I don’t know how many times the NYT or some other liberal paper or news media has spiked, half-reported, slanted, or even made up a story. Check Smartertimes.com for a daily correction of NYT misinformation. Remember when NYT made up a story about the Boy Scouts losing funding over their stance on gays? Turns out they flat out made that up. You seem to think only a conservative paper could do this. I posted that WSJ opinion piece in the first place because the author gave a very good summation of the pro-Israel point of view, with excellent supporting evidence. Conservatives often have intelligent well-reasoned opinions, but you would never know because you discount them without considering their arguments. How do you know your liberal opinions are right if you don’t test them against conservative ones? Just because you are a conservative doesn’t mean you are a lying political zealot. Unless you believe in marginalizing political dissent. You’re right, this isn’t cute; it’s hypocrisy. posted by Lee Ann on Tuesday, March 12, 2002 | link Israeli/ Palestinian Conflict Part III: Brief Statement of My Position In the interest of brevity and time, I'm just going to make a brief undefended statement of my position, and leave the actual argument for the day after tomorrow - after which time this side of the debate shall decamp.
I think what the Palestinians are doing is inexcusable. I also think the Israelis are responding to it with excessive force. And just as a side note. The point of the UN story about the school was that the police headquarters had been bombed into a shell, that there was no one inside it, and that there was no military purpose to be served by bombing it yet again. There was, however, a school right next to it, and there were children attending the school at the time the Israelis struck. According to the Amnesty story 300 Israelis have died, including 200 civilians and 50 children, and 1000 Palestinians have died, including 200 children - to see who those children are, I refer you to the Guardian story I cited earlier. I don't think the Palestinians are the "good guys" in this, but I don't think the Israelis are either, and I don't see what purpose apportioning such labels serves. And just for the record: I have defended the Palestinians and cited Israeli abuses because I was responding to what you said. Your position is that the Israelis are better, and I don't think that's true. In order to show that I have had to cite offenses by the Israelis, but that doesn't mean that I am glossing over the offenses of the Palestinians. If you ask my honest opinion, I think what has happened on both sides is reprehensible, but I also don't think that sitting back on one's heals in the comfort of one's living room and apportioning blame does a whole hell of a lot toward solving or even understanding the problem.
Leaving the violence aside, the Palestinians do have legitimate grievances, which it is the responsibility of the Israelis, as the occupying force, and thus as the holder of the cards, to address. The Israelis have done this, but they have also violated the terms of international treaties and of the agreements they signed with the Palestinians. There is a difference in reacting negatively to someone because you dislike them, and reacting that way because that person is doing concrete and harmful things to you. And that last statement is important, because at the moment the operative factor is that each side is responding to concrete and harmful things that have been done to it. However, as the bodies pile up the pendulum swings and concrete and harmful things get turned into abiding and irrational hatred. The situation then becomes a blood feud, in which each side really does want to destroy the other, and where no one is willing to negotiate. And this is bad, because neither the Palestinians nor the Israelis are going anywhere. And the truth is, that given the size of the population, the arability of the land, the fact that the entire country is the size of New Jersey, and that it is prima facie absurd to think that you can have a functioning state separated from itself by a hostile neighbor, the Israelis and Palestinians are going to have to learn to live together and that in the confines of the same state. In other words, they're stuck with each other, and for that reason who's worse, or who's more guilty is about as important as a flea on a dying dog. What is important is that the two groups find a way of living with each other - fairly, equitably, and non-violently - and that they be willing to do so. The longer the violence continues, the less likely that is to happen.
And that is something which is bad for us; for Israel has the possibility of becoming this century's Balkans - the place where World Wars start. The US is the country with the most influence over Israel and the one most likely to be able to steer it toward peace. It is incumbent upon the US to do that; just as it is incumbent upon the Arab countries to do the same with the Palestinians - in the interest of the Israelis, the Palestinians, and everybody else. And that isn't relativism; it's the hard-nosed acceptance of fact. posted by Gena on Tuesday, March 12, 2002 | link Israeli/ Palestinian Conflict Part II: Your Argument Yes, Lee Ann I did fail to address your argument in its entirety, and my post was scattered, for the simple reason I was - as the title implied - addressing the individual claims you made. I didn't take on your argument, or clarify my position because my computer had crashed yet again and by the time I had rewritten everything it was 6 o'clock in the morning, and contrary to popular perception I am not a member of the X-Men, endowed with superhuman powers obviating the need for sleep. However, I am going to take on your argument, though this is made difficult by the fact that I don't really understand it, or more precisely I don't understand the ultimate conclusion you wish to draw. I don't want to strawman you, so I'm going to outline your premises, and give you the option of correcting me, if I am wrong. If you don't correct me, I'll address your argument tomorrow night.
Your central claims:
P1: The Palestinians are terrorists who target civilians.
That this is your position seems relatively clear to me. What is really unclear to me is how you wish to relate this to the larger conflict. Based upon what you have written, the argument would seem to go something like the following:
P1: The Israelis are better than the Palestinians.
P1: The grievances of the Palestinians don't matter.
P1: The Israelis bear no responsibility for the fighting.
P1: The Israelis are better than the Palestinians.
And it is here that I am absolutely at a loss; for there are several onclusions you could draw from this, including but not limited to the rght of the Israelis to liquidate the Palestinians. I don't think that's what you mean, but it's very unclear to me what exactly you do mean. What is the final conclusion here? What are the Israelis entitled to do? How are the Palestinians supposed to live? And how should the conflict end? Without knowing that, I can't address your argument - at least not fairly. Please repost tomorrow and let me know. posted by Gena on Tuesday, March 12, 2002 | link Ouch! I don't mean to scream unfair. But, hey, unfair! Writing something like "Oops, the WSJ and a Jewish newspaper. I hope Gena can recover from the bias." is a willful misunderstanding of my argument. I don't give a rat's ass what sort of newspaper the WSJ is. Every single writer on its staff could belong to the Brotherhood of Believers in Descent from Pluto for all I care. The point is that its editorial page is one of the most uniformly and identifiably conservative in the country, which means that it is made up of people who see the world a certain way and want to make damn certain that everyone else sees it that way too. And people who have an overt ideological agenda are not reliable because they tend to decide the facts on the basis of their opinions rather than deciding their opinions based on the facts, and they are furthermore oftentimes not above skewering or eliminating or even inventing facts in order to further their agenda. That is the reason I don't trust them. I don't trust them on the left; I don't trust them on the center; and I sure as hell don't trust them on the right. If I want to read about Oblonsky, I'll bloody well read Tolstoy. And that is also the reason I don't trust a study done by the director of the World Zionist Organization (in Jerusalem for God's sake, which last time I checked is one of the main points of dispute); the same as I wouldn't trust a study of Israeli textbooks done by the director of the Pan Arab Liberation League, especially when I can't read the books and check the facts on my own. C'mon Lee Ann. How likely are you to trust an economic study done by the Secretary of the Communist Party? How about about a study of "the male gaze" by the Association of Differance Feminists? Or one about Birmingham textbooks done by the Black Separatist Front? Surely you would question whether the study existed as a neutral scientific exploration of the subject or as an overt propaganda tool to sell you an ideological position sweetened by the saccharine of science. And if you didn't? Well, that sort of naiveté isn't cute; it marches people off at tyrants'' heals. posted by Gena on Tuesday, March 12, 2002 | link -------------------- Monday, March 11, 2002Offense vs. Defense. I’ve been thinking and I think I have finally isolated what so galled me about your earlier post. It’s that you spent the entire time sneering at the Israelis without once condemning Palestinian atrocities. You gloss over Black September, Sbarro, the Dolphinium, and every other deliberate targeting of civilians in order to focus on military strikes, as if they were the same thing. The Palestinians slaughter Israeli civilians, Israel carries out precision military attacks against terrorists known to have ordered those attacks, and you blame Israel for “continuing the cycle of violence!” You harped on Israeli atrocities that I mentioned (and condemned) in the first place, but never can bring yourself to condemn the terrorist atrocities I mentioned. You snipe about Sharon and his tangential involvement with Sabre and Shatila, while ignoring Yasser Arafat’s direct involvement in 40 years worth of terror attacks against civilians, including personally ordering the murder of American diplomat Cleo Noel! You never once addressed the many incidents I mentioned of Palestinian attacks against Israelis. You are beginning to sound like Dr. Carrington from The Thing: It is the Israelis duty to stand here and die, in the interest of peace. Well, no it isn’t. If the Palestinians want to declare war against Israel, why shouldn’t Israel defend itself?posted by Lee Ann on Monday, March 11, 2002 | link Internet Censorship. Thanks to the mighty Possumblogger (he’s big, he’s bad, he’s a marsupial) for the heads up on this vile bit of censorship. An Internet ad firm that effects over 85% of the ‘net won’t run ads for Kurt Wilson, of Survival Enterprises, one of the country’s most respected gun merchants. No other site gets refused ads on the basis of content, but some anti-gun lefty thinks rights are not for certain people. As a future gun owner, I am quite furious about this attack on my rights. Heck, as an American, I am furious. You should be too. posted by Lee Ann on Monday, March 11, 2002 | link Sowell Patrol. I love Thomas Sowell. He is one of the most brilliant, most original, and most lucid thinkers I have ever encountered. Here’s is one of his “Random Thoughts” columns, on growing old. It’s just a blog-like peek into the mind of genius. I would eagerly recommend all his books, especially his Basic Economics, The Vision of the Anointed, and the “Cultures” trilogy. If there is a support group for rabid Sowell fans, I want to join. Just call me Sowell Sister Number 1. posted by Lee Ann on Monday, March 11, 2002 | link Relativize This! Here is a story detailing how the Palestinians whooped it up celebrating the latest suicide bombing in Israel. They partied hearty because a bomber walked into a café and murdered 11 civilians. Boy I can’t tell you how many times I’ve read about the Israelis dancing for joy at the deaths of Arab civilians. Yes, I can. None. That’s how many times. Here’s a moving first person account of the atrocity from Ha’aretz. “Outside, the televised scenes of ambulances and police have begun. But inside, it is deathly still. Only the smell of burning. Of charred human flesh. A young man at the counter, burned. A young girl wearing black, blasted to the ground. Human hands, human thighs, a human skull. A handsome young man in a t-shirt sprawled backwards on a high barstool. Absolutely still.” Thanks to Opinionjournal for this excerpt. Oops, the WSJ and a Jewish newspaper. I hope Gena can recover from the bias. posted by Lee Ann on Monday, March 11, 2002 | link Confusing, Yet Wrong. Your post is so scattered I don’t know where to start. You harp on the failings of the Israelis until the cows come home, but you ignore those of the Palestinians. It is easy to criticize Israel, because they act like a civilized nation. The Israelis foster a free and open democracy while the Palestinians are devoted to their kleptocracy. You are holding Israel to a standard that you don’t hold the Palestinians to. The cycle of violence you complain about has, in every instance, been started by the Palestinians. By the way, don’t start a post highlighting my admission of Israeli human rights failings, then end by implying I said the Palestinians had no grievances. It makes you sound like you’ve been spiking your whiskey. You refused to address my response to yours. I acknowledged the failure of the Israelis. You keep defending those of the Palestinians. Sharon may was indeed involved with the Phalangist militia, but there is no proof he knew of or condoned the massacres. I notice you did not mention that camps like Sabre or Shatilla were used as bases for Hezbollah guerrillas. Which doesn't excuse the massacre, but is important background information. You don’t mention that the Muslim refugees and the Christian phalangists had been engaged in bloody warfare ever since the Syrians started funding Muslim terror campaigns in the (mostly Christian) Lebanon. Do know the extent of the atrocities committed against the Christian community by the Muslim Arabs? You know, 77% of Arab Americans are Christians. Ever wonder why? Maybe because they were driven out of their homelands by Islamofascists. You revile the fact that Israel strikes at terrorists in civilian areas, but you don’t mention that those terrorists attack Israelis using civilians as shields. Should terrorists get a free hand because they are willing to endanger women and children? Israel is not trying to kill civilians! They use ultra-sophisticated tracking missiles that can take a man’s head off without damaging the pictures on his wall. If they had the same disregard for civilian life that the Palestinians do, they would just use a tomahawk missile and blow up the whole neighborhood. Israel has always tried to minimize civilian casualties; the Palestinians have always tried to maximize them. I post examples of the Palestinians targetting civilians; you post examples of the Israelis striking paramilitary targets. Yeah, just exactly the same thing. Palestinian police headquarters double as headquarters for Al Aqsa terrorists. The Israelis didn’t put those orphans 200 meters from a legitimate military target, the Palestinians did. Heck, you even admit the Israelis didn’t hit the orphanage. They do this because they expect that the Israelis don’t want to kill civilians and that they will be safe from air strikes. The orphans were used by the PA as human shields. Arafat uses Red Crescent ambulances to transport weapons and gunmen across Israeli checkpoints. Why aren’t you condemning the Palestinians who base their terror operations in civilian areas, in order to make Israel look bad when they retaliate? Maybe the Palestinians shouldn’t use human shields. Maybe you should read both sides of the story. “Aren't you worried that there might not be just a tad bit of ideological bias there? Perhaps this doesn't bother you, but it certainly bothers me. This is why I don't post stuff from the Nation or Dissent or anything else that I think might have an agenda to push.” You are so cute when you are naïve. The Spiegel doesn’t have an agenda? The Washington Post, which broke Watergate but spiked every Democratic scandal for 30 years, has no agenda? The New York Times is neutral? I hope you don’t watch CNN. The Wall Street Journal is one of the most respected papers in the country and gets some of the most insightful people in the country to write for its editorial page. All papers have a bias; some are just up front and honest about it. According to your logic, no news sites at all can be posted because they all have biases. It’s not what papers print; it’s what they spike. WSJ has published many pro-Palestinian articles too. When have you seen pro-Israel articles in the Euro press? Speaking of bias, you do realize that those PA textbooks, the ones that don’t show Israel’s existence, are published by the U. N.? The U. N. puts Syria on its Human Rights panel. Remember the Dunbar conference on racism? The one that blamed the West for all the problems in the world and defined Zionism as racism? You complain of bias and then link to the U. N.? Guffaw! You cite Amnesty International saying that 1000 Palestinians, 200 of them children, were killed. How many of those were shooting at the Israelis at the time of their deaths? How do they define child? Are they equating a toddler caught in the crossfire with a teenage suicide bomber? Are 19-year-old gunmen considered children? How many Israelis were killed during the same time period? How many were children? How many were civilians? Certainly Amnesty keeps track of that. You bring up several well known failings of the Israelis, but you never mention the constant terror attacks by the Palestinians. Why doesn’t Amnesty investigate the plethora of allegations of Palestinian human rights violations? Why don’t you condemn Palestinian terrorists with the same vehemence that you condemn Israeli ones? The Palestinians talk out of both sides of their mouths. They recognize Israel to the West, and then declare that they will exterminate the Jews in their own media. They are just saying what we want to hear. The Palestinians are not a fully functioning state through their own fault. They get billions from America and other western nations every year. Do they set up an educational system or try to create a functioning economy? No, they funnel the money to terror groups and to Arafat’s personal bank accounts. The Palestinians are as responsible for their conduct as the Israelis are. They are human beings and can be treated as such. Making excuses for them reduces them to the level of children, or of lesser beings. They are supporting terrorists because they have chosen to, not because the Israelis didn’t ‘bring them up right.” Don’t reduce the Palestinians to subhuman status by denying their status as rational, thinking humans. They choose to support Hamas and Hezbollah. They could choose not to. They are fully functioning humans and can be held responsible for their actions. Yes, the failures of Israel highlight its better moral position. Kind of like “man bites dog.” Their existence highlights their rarity. Israel also has a record of redressing its wrongs. Israel’s human rights violations are openly criticized and often eliminated at the behest of the Israelis themselves. The Israelis have always responded publicly to any allegation of impropriety. When Amnesty International makes accusations against Israel, the Israelis investigate them. Amnesty can travel and work freely in Israel. Can you say the same of PA controlled areas? The Palestinians are determined to keep killing civilians until Israel gives up; the Israelis are determined to keep killing terrorists until the terrorists give up. There is a world of difference between the two positions. posted by Lee Ann on Monday, March 11, 2002 | link American POW in Iraq. The Washington Times has broken a story that an American pilot believed killed in the Gulf war is alive and being held prisoner in Iraq. God only knows what condition Navy Lt. Cmdr. Michael Scott Speicher is in. Any bets that the Iraqis are treating him in accordance with the Geneva Convention? Then again, Americans have never been treated in accordance with the Geneva Convention. Ask John McCain and the boys from the Hanoi Hilton. Come on Gena, you hyperventilated about the Gitmo prisoners, now where’s your outrage? The Geneva Conventions say he should have been released at the end of the war. OK, let’s have a big, long Gena-post reviling at length the cruel treatment this American has been subject to. I dare you. posted by Lee Ann on Monday, March 11, 2002 | link Mommy’s Little Publicity Stunt. Yippee! Another photo-op adoption in La-la-land. Angelina and Billy Bob adopted a Cambodian baby boy. I’m sure the kid will have the best nanny money can buy. I suppose I should give them the benefit of the doubt. Especially as Gena likes Billy Bob so much. posted by Lee Ann on Monday, March 11, 2002 | link Paranoia or Censorship? Paranoia. I used the computers in the UT library today and had no problem bringing Spinsters up. I think Instapundit is probably right: it was a DNS problem or some other system fluke. On the other hand, I do think filtering is something to be angry about, and when it happens at a publicly funded institution, it violates the First Amendment. I would explain why, but the Israelis and Palestinians have fried my brain for the evening (morning), and I'm retiring from the front. posted by Gena on Monday, March 11, 2002 | link Israeli/ Palestinian Conflict: Individual Claims The Israelis Are Here to Stay
I have no doubt they are. Nor do I think they shouldn't be.
There have been instances in the past where the Israelis have committed, funded, or been closely allied with organizations that have committed massacres and atrocities against the Palestinians.
Funny you should mention the Sabra and Shatilla Massacre. "Sharon authorized entry of what were presumed to be members of Gemayel's Lebanese Forces (a Phalangist milita) and Saad Haddad's South Lebanon Army into the Sabra and Shatilla refugee camps...For the next 38 hours, aided by Israeli flares at night, the militiamen raped, tortured, mutilated and massacred civilians." Wow. Sharon. Now there's a name which sounds awfully familiar.
Yes, children have been killed on both sides, but the difference is that the Palestinians are aiming at the children and the Israelis are not.
Yes, well not aiming at the children might be the operative term. At 9 am on March 7, 2002 "an Israeli F16 dropped a large bomb on the Palestinian Police Headquarters compound in Gaza City. The bomb exploded within 200 metres of 3,100 refugee children, aged between six and 15 years old, who were attending three schools run by the United Nations Relief and Works Agency for Palestine Refugees...Mr Peter Hansen, UNRWA's Commissioner General said today: 'The police headquarters targeted today has been bombed five times already and is little more than an empty shell. It is difficult to fathom just what military or strategic purpose is being served by bombing it for a sixth time. What is clear is that by bombing a crowded city centre at 9am on a weekday morning the innocent children at our schools have been severely traumatised.'"
The Israelis are trying to end the violence and the Palestinians are devoted to increasing it.
And your source for this is a Wall Street Journal Op ed piece? Aren't you worried that there might not be just a tad bit of ideological bias there? Perhaps this doesn't bother you, but it certainly bothers me. This is why I don't post stuff from the Nation or Dissent or anything else that I think might have an agenda to push. And if the Israelis are trying to end the violence why have they repeatedly blocked and even shot at ambulances, entered refugee camps leaving large numbers of dead and injured persons, indiscriminately fired into civilian populations from helicopter gun ships, and systematically destroyed Palestinian towns and villages? This certainly doesn't seem like particularly peaceful or reconciliatory behavior. Nor does the statement in the Amnesty report you linked that: "The number of Palestinians killed since the beginning of the current intifada in September 2000 has now reached more than 1000. The great majority of those killed, who include more than 200 children, were killed unlawfully when no lives were in danger." Perhaps you and I simply disagree as to what the term "end the violence" actually means. Your WSJ editorialist seems to think it means "ratchet up the damage until the Palestinians are ready for real negotiations." To me this is a strategy for increasing the violence - as Palestinian reprisals and the hardening of views on both sides seem to demonstrate, - unless of course Mr. WSJ means "ratchet up the damage" to the point where the Palestinians cease to exist. This would certainly be a final solution to the problem.
The Palestinians refuse to recognize Israel’s right to exist.
And the proof of this is a study of Palestinian text books which was authored by "the director and chief editor of the World Zionist Organization publishing house in Jerusalem?" Don't you remember Oslo: "On 10 September 1993, Israel and the PLO exchanged letters of mutual recognition. The PLO recognized Israel's right to exist." I don't dispute that some Palestinians refuse to accept facts, but officially the Palestinians have recognized Israel, and they haven't withdrawn that recognition either.
In the same way, the human rights failings of Israel serve to highlight that they are the good guys
I won't even attempt to understand the logic behind that statement. Presumably it is obvious to someone.
we expect better of them than of the PA.
Yes, because Israel is a well organized functioning state which is therefore responsible for its conduct, and for the conduct of its military and intelligence services, and which happens to be a party to the Geneva Conventions.
It has still treated the Palestinians better than the Arab nations have.
Which is wholly irrelevant. Someone else's bad conduct is no excuse for your own.
I used to equate the Palestinians and Israelis too, but that was in high school.
I don't understand what you mean by "equate." Are you saying the Palestinians have no grievances? You admit that "Israel has got problems up the wazoo." Does saying that both sides bear responsibility for the situation, equate them? And if it is equating them, I fail to see why this is a horrible, awful, radical position. posted by Gena on Monday, March 11, 2002 | link Israeli/ Palestinian Conflict: Preface Lee Ann, since I don't think what you've written on the Palestinian/ Israeli conflict has much to do with what I actually think about it, I'm going to split my response into a discussion of your argument and a clarification and defense of my own evidently poorly expressed position. First up: Individual claims. posted by Gena on Monday, March 11, 2002 | link -------------------- Sunday, March 10, 2002Protocols of the Elders of Riyadh. Here’s an update on the preferred TV viewing of the Arab world. Funny, I must have missed the dramatic interpretation of the Protocols of the Elders of Zion when it aired on PBS. You know, that whole “blood libel” thing sounds so familiar. Where could I have heard of it? I guess I just don’t watch the right TV pogroms.posted by Lee Ann on Sunday, March 10, 2002 | link Goober's Revenge! The anti-peanut hysteria has reached Britain! I do realize that some people are allergic to peanuts, but that doesn’t give them the right to deprive me of the luscious legumes. Many of our modern allergies are self-induced by our over-sterilized, hermetically sealed hygiene-fetish lives. Having no real germs to fight, our bodies fight anything that happens into them. Open the windows, ditch the anti-bacterial soap, and read the ingredient list. Just get off my culinary back. In fact, here’s a wonderful work by George Washington Carver that gives lots of great peanut recipes. posted by Lee Ann on Sunday, March 10, 2002 | link The Israelis Are Here to Stay. I have not canonized the Israelis. I’m not saying that Israel hasn’t got major human rights problems. They have done and still do awful things. They need to stop, right now. They have legalized torture in some instances, using the “the guy knows where the bomb is” scenario as justification. Any use of torture is unacceptable, reprehensible, and any other word you’d care to throw in. There have been instances in the past where the Israelis have committed, funded, or been closely allied with organizations that have committed massacres and atrocities against the Palestinians. The entire history of the region has been one long got-you-got-you-back of violence. During WWII the Palestinians slaughtered untold numbers of Levant Jews; Palestinian families also braved the wrath of their neighbors to protect the Hebron Jews from massacre. This is not a simple, black and white issue. Israel has got problems up the wazoo. The fact remains that Israel is still the good guy in this fight. Yes, children have been killed on both sides, but the difference is that the Palestinians are aiming at the children and the Israelis are not. The Israelis are trying to end the violence and the Palestinians are devoted to increasing it. You’ll notice that Amnesty doesn’t go around squawking about the Palestinian Authority’s abysmal human rights record nearly as much as they do Israel’s. Why? Because Israel is the only one of the two that cares about human rights. The Palestinians refuse to recognize Israel’s right to exist. The bombing of Dresden was a war crime and violation of human rights, but the Allies are still the good guys. The Dresden atrocity serves to highlight that fact; it is so horrible because of its rarity. In the same way, the human rights failings of Israel serve to highlight that they are the good guys; we expect better of them than of the PA. Israel is the only democracy in the Middle East. It has still treated the Palestinians better than the Arab nations have. Know how Jordan deals with Palestinian insurgency? By killing 25,000 of its Palestinians. Funny, Israel hasn’t tried to exterminate anybody. Palestinians can get Israeli citizenship; Jews are driven out of PA controlled areas. In your research, look up how the Palestinians have treated the Jews, even the Sephardic ones who have always lived in the Levant. Check out Arafat’s history of terrorism. You know, his buddies the Black September. Try finding out about a guy named Cleo Noel. I have taken classes in Mideast History, have read Teodor Hertzl and the other seminal Zionist texts, taken Arabic with a semi-fundamentalist Saudi, and regularly read the Washington Report on Middle Eastern Affairs. The WRMEA is as pro-Palestine as it gets. I headed my college chapter of Amnesty International, for cryin' out loud. I used to equate the Palestinians and Israelis too, but that was in high school. I grew up, learned about history, morality, ethics, and humanity. And, Shoshanna, wherever you are, you were right, I was wrong. posted by Lee Ann on Sunday, March 10, 2002 | link Paranoia Actually. More accurately, the amazing lag time between a phenomena in the real world and a university responding to it. If you can access big time political sites, you are not being politically censored. I used to work in a university computer lab, so here’s my take. They have certain sites filtered out, usually porn sites or psycho KKK type sites, and they have blogspot mistakenly listed as one of those. They probably think it's porn. I don’t know whether they have the same censorship rights as a private institution, but as a university they have more than you’d think. A university has a lot more leeway on the First Amendment than other publicly funded entities. The filter programs work by blocking sites with certain key words, and blogspot likely has one or two of those words. Samford blocked all sites, porn, gay/lesbian, even the White House (the site described the Clintons as “partners” or some such word), that didn’t jibe with its religious mission, which it has every right to do. It’s a private university and the servers are a privilege extended by the university. Not so with UTK. Just complain to the university lab department and they should unblock the sites. Never attribute to malice what you can attribute to stupidity. Especially in a university setting. posted by Lee Ann on Sunday, March 10, 2002 | link -------------------- Saturday, March 09, 2002Paranoia or Censorship?You know all those nice things I said about the University of Tennessee, well I may just have to take them back. I was in the University library today, and a curious thing happened when I tried to bring up Spinsters - nothing. I could load Yahoo, Google, the Washington Post, the NY Times, even 2600, but not Spinsters and not Instapundit, Quasipundit, War Liberal, or any other site with "blogspot" in the URL. Coincidence? Or filtering?For the University's sake, it better be coincidence, because if it's filtering, it's political censorship by a publicly funded institution and therefore a violation of the First Amendment. Something makes me think this isn't limited to UT, which really makes me think that someone should sue - but not UT because it's too poor and basically friendly. posted by Gena on Saturday, March 09, 2002 | link Takes Two to Tango I'm not going to wade in on the Israeli/ Palestinian conflict tonight - too tired. Plus the complexity of the issue demands a trip outside the net and into the library. Yes, the big guns are coming out. Fortify now or forever hold your peace. And while you're heating the hot oil, and digging the trenches, you might want to look at the State Department's Human Rights Report on Israel. Not to mention. Since you cited the Guardian, here's a catalog of children killed in the conflict. Maybe I'm dyslexic, but it sure looks to me like civilians are being killed on both sides. posted by Gena on Saturday, March 09, 2002 | link Six of One, Half Dozen of the Other, NOT. I was hoping that your earlier outburst of moral equivalence was just something you ate. Nope, you posted the same relativism twice and are now officially demented. The Palestinian suicide bombers and the Israeli retaliation are NOT morally equivalent! The Palestinians bombers are terrorists who deliberately target unarmed civilians for death; the Israelis are using precision strikes against known terrorist leaders. There is a big difference between the two. The Palestinian bombers have targeted unarmed teenagers at a disco, killing 17. One bomber got in line at a Sbarro, right behind an 8 months pregnant woman, and killed 15. A gunman attacked a 13-year-old girl’s Bat Mitzvah, killing 6. A bomber stood next to a line of strollers and women in an anti-zionist, pacifist, ultra Orthodox neighborhood, killing 9. There was also the Haifa bus bombing that killed 15 civilians. The Israelis have sent precision missiles into terrorist headquarters, killing admitted leaders of groups like Al Aqsa, Hamas and Hezbollah. Each group admits targeting Israeli civilians and is linked to Arafat’s Fatah movement. You might not have noticed, but the Palestinian Authority does not want peace. In 1993 Arafat was offered a recognized homeland in the West Bank and Gaza, and half of Jerusalem. He refused it. The Palestinians will never accept the existence of the Jewish state and are determined to exterminate the Israelis. Palestinian schools teach with textbooks that omit the existence of Israel. Young children are given fake explosives and trained to be suicide bombers in their schools. Arafat pays a bounty to the family of each suicide bomber. The terrorists are lauded as martyrs. The Israelis have repeatedly offered peace and statehood, but the Palestinians want blood. As for the U.S stepping in to solve the problem, who do you think has been restraining the Israelis from massive military retaliation against the entire Palestinian people? That’s right, America. If America wasn’t restraining the Israelis, they would have taken over the whole West Bank, Gaza, Lebanon, and solved the terror problem with more blood than the Fatah ever dreamed of. There is a profound difference between the victim of a crime and the perpetrator of that crime, between attack and self-defense. Equating the two glosses over the evil of the murderer and mocks the suffering of his victim. posted by Lee Ann on Saturday, March 09, 2002 | link Capitalists Defended. Although I would gladly have torched my personal copy of the Scarlet Letter, I despise book burnings. One thing though, the capitalists would have sold the books on E-bay. The “historically inevitable stupidity” resulted from Marx meets legalistic bureaucrats. posted by Lee Ann on Saturday, March 09, 2002 | link Good For George But Not Enough This is ridiculous and it makes me mad. It is perfectly reasonable for Sharon to demand that the Palestinians make a serious effort to stop the violence, but it is a trifle hypocritical to say that while doing this. Both sides should stop the killing. The Arab states seem to be leaning on the Palestinians to do that and the US should positively sit on the Israelis. Sharon is Andrew Jackson in the Middle East and we need to make it quite clear that now is not the century to be playing Kill the Indians. posted by Gena on Saturday, March 09, 2002 | link Book Burning As a bibliophile and former Russian major I don't know whether to be sad or angry about this. Probably both. Haven't these people heard of E-Bay? You could auction the books for God's sake. Don't incinerate them. This is what happens when capitalism meets Karl Marx - historically inevitable stupidity. posted by Gena on Saturday, March 09, 2002 | link Racialism and Anglo American Philosophy Lee Ann, I thought your response to my defense of Peter Singer quite good, but I didn't understand your last paragraph at all. Why is "Anglo American philosophy" a "racialist" term? Is it that you object to British and American philosophy being lumped together? Despite their differences, I do think this a standard practice, and I don't understand how it involves race. Granted it defines philosophy along national lines, but I don't think you can say that there is at the moment, at least, one world philosophy, or more precisely one philosophical school which is dominant the world over. And why is it racialist to assert that British/ American philosophy is distinct from say Continental philosophy? Perhaps, you mean that the term "Anglo American philosophy" ignores the presence of Continental philosophy within the American academy and in a filtered down version in American society. This is a valid criticism, but I still don't understand how it involves race. Are the French now a race? The Brits? Maybe I just don't understand race or how people think about it. In my quest for enlightenment I've been reading Lingua Franca. posted by Gena on Saturday, March 09, 2002 | link -------------------- Friday, March 08, 2002Speaking of Evil. If this woman doesn’t qualify, nobody does. She hits a homeless man with her car, drives home with him still in her windshield, and leaves him in the garage until he bleeds to death several days later. I was hoping this was an Internet legend or a bad initial reporting of facts, but this is the real, evil deal. Aaargh! Read this and get enraged.posted by Lee Ann on Friday, March 08, 2002 | link Beelzabarbie! Mark Steyn again. This time he’s going after Big Bimbo. posted by Lee Ann on Friday, March 08, 2002 | link Who You Callin' Special? First off, in the South “special” means “retarded.” This gave an unexpected giggle to your otherwise very well reasoned article. I would like to take issue with, or further explain my positions on, a few things. “Consider for example the people who criticize the courts and the use that is made of them for being 'undemocratic.' The argument here is essentially that if the majority wants something, it must by definition right, even if it squashes the minority.” You forget that the courts are often criticized for being undemocratic when they are used by interest groups to squash the majority. Majorities have rights too. Minority activists like to use the courts as a quasi-legislature to push an agenda that has been democratically rejected. Sometimes this is good, i.e. civil rights legislation. Often it is the tyranny of a self-appointed elite who wish to dictate to those they see as inferior, i.e. bilingual education (rejected by popular vote, including by virtually all Hispanics). Of course, there is the ruling in some Yankee state that all new housing had to be “accessible” thus granting “visitability” rights to other people’s houses. “Prove for example that you are not a brain in a vat, or a simulation in a very sophisticated virtual reality machine.” I don’t have to prove that I’m not a brain in a vat, any more than I have to “prove” gravity. It just is; don’t believe me, try floating. There is such a thing as a stupid question and philosophers are prone to asking them. Philosophers have stupid-questioned themselves into virtual irrelevance. If you are wondering whether you are a product of a virtual reality machine, you are severely underemployed. By the way, who runs this virtual reality machine? Is this a backdoor way of positing God? “ . . . it does give moral standing to Dante, someone who would almost certainly be excluded by other ethical systems, and it does claim that Dante's existence is important, and should enter into the sphere of our concern.” I do in fact give a modified moral standing to Dante. Most ethical systems do give great thought to the treatment of animals. Religious systems view animals through the prism of “creature of God” and view respect for animals as respect for God. Secular systems think of animals as living things and deserving of respect on that score. Dante’s moral standing is modified because Dante is not a “moral actor.” Do animals act “morally?” Do they grant other creatures moral status? Think cats and mice. “To me, however, ‘special’ usually means someone's head being justifiably lopped off, and for that reason, I'm all for kicking ‘special’ out of the vocabulary - white folks are special, Germans are special, gentiles are special, men are special, humans are special, and somebody screams.” Special just means different from others. Dante is special amongst Malteses, for example. You are grievously overreacting to the reality of difference. Different means just that, different. Not “superior,” not “freak,” not even “retarded.” Humans are at a higher moral and ethical plane than animals because they have minds, and have developed things like “ethics” and “morality.” Humans even consider other people and even animals to be covered by those categories. “Singer is important for having turned Anglo American moral philosophy away from the analysis of "moral language" and to the realm of actual ethical dilemmas and moral choices.” Read more Anglo American moral philosophers. They all deal with the practical application of moral language, i.e. real life and real situations. It seems that you are reacting to “morality” not as an ethical system, but as a religious phenomenon. Do you categorically reject philosophical insights merely because of their religious origins? I can think of no other reason why you accuse American philosophers of being pie-in-the-sky idealists. What’s with the "Anglo American" schtick anyway? Are they philosophers or ethnic representatives? This is unnecessary racialism and should be avoided. posted by Lee Ann on Friday, March 08, 2002 | link That Old Thing? The Bush documentary is old news. Apparently he tells lame jokes, makes a few profound statements, and basically puts up with a bus full of reporters for a year and a half. The people who’ve seen the film say Bush comes off quite well. They say the film may push his popularity rating even higher, if that’s possible. Here’s a witty review. The elite opinion on Bush is that he never watches Sex and the City and doesn’t know who Leonardo DiCaprio is, and is thus a moronic rube. Well, I have never (and will never) watch SATC and only wish I didn’t know who Leo is. If that makes me a low-brow rube, then praise the Lord and pass the cheese doodles. posted by Lee Ann on Friday, March 08, 2002 | link Ubi ubi sub ubi, where oh where is your underwear Buy your tickets and reserve your copy now; for we're about to get a book and film on our president's sophisticated and urbane sense of humor. posted by Gena on Friday, March 08, 2002 | link I'm Not a Utilitarian, but I'm Going to Defend Peter Singer Anyway Given all that's going on in the world at the moment, there are probably more important things to be talking about than Peter Singer. However. Yes, Singer is a utilitarian, and yes, anyone who read my post on women in the military can probably figure out that I am not one. The temptation of utilitarianism is that it looks like an objective way to answer questions which are almost impossible to answer - for instance why should we be good, and how do you define good in the first place? Well, most people would rather be happy than sad, and if you equate happiness with goodness, then you place goodness in the sphere of interest of most people. Thus, being good is not only in the interest of most people, it is the interest of most people, and if not everybody can be happy, then the next best thing is for as many people as possible to be happy; and doing good is essentially giving the people what they want. You see variations of this thinking all over the place. Consider for example the people who criticize the courts and the use that is made of them for being "undemocratic." The argument here is essentially that if the majority wants something, it must by definition right, even if it squashes the minority. This is fine unless you happen to be one of the minority getting squashed. And although there are numerous other objections one could raise to utilitarianism, this is the first and most important place where we part ways; for I'm not so sure that any good no matter how great is worth the expedient sacrifice of any one person, and I certainly object most strenuously to the fang and cloak "utilitarianism" expounded by Alan Dershowitz and others. Any moral system which leaves anyone dashed upon the rocks is suspect, and I certainly think that we can do better than one which when it comes right down to brass tacks is essentially predicated upon interest.
To read philosophy is usually to be horrified, and that for the simple reason that once you really start to examine things, you automatically fall down the rabbit hole. Prove for example that you are not a brain in a vat, or a simulation in a very sophisticated virtual reality machine. To my knowledge no one has been able to absolutely convincingly knock skepticism aside, and if you can't even rationally prove to yourself the existence of a world you literally trip over, how much harder is it to answer questions such as: Is life sacred? If so, why? And whose life are we talking about anyway? Singer's answer to those questions is more complicated than this, but it is essentially that life is sacred when it is conscious and can form the desire to go on living. By this definition the lives of Lee Ann, Dante, and a senile grandmother would all be sacred, since Lee Ann, Dante, and a senile grandmother all have some awareness of self and all have the desire not to see that self terminated. The good thing about this, in my opinion, is that it does give moral standing to Dante, someone who would almost certainly be excluded by other ethical systems, and it does claim that Dante's existence is important, and should enter into the sphere of our concern. Giving animals equivalent moral standing with humans doesn't sit well with a lot of people, especially those like your National Review columnist who want to believe that humans are something special. To me, however, "special" usually means someone's head being justifiably lopped off, and for that reason, I'm all for kicking "special" out of the vocabulary - white folks are special, Germans are special, gentiles are special, men are special, humans are special, and somebody screams. There is a trap here, of course, and being a philosopher, and an analytic philosopher at that, and thus an avatar of logical consistency, Singer falls into it. If you define moral standing on the basis of consciousness, then it follows that things which are not conscious have no moral standing. Thus, a fetus has no moral standing, and neither does a baby, unless of course you can prove that the baby is conscious. You can modify this to say that moral standing should be extended to things which are or may become conscious, in which case both the baby and the fetus have standing. In other words, you wind up faced with the choice of saying either that abortion is wrong or infanticide is right, neither of which appeals to me, but one of which appeals to Singer more than the other.
Singer does have some freaky, freaky ideas - bestiality being one, infanticide, and euthanasia being two others - although I do question whether Singer supports "involuntary" euthanasia as you claim, but here I must plead ignorance, not having read his writings on the subject. On the other hand, Singer has some very good ideas as well - extending moral standing to animals, for instance, or enlarging our ethical obligation to include distant people and the poor. If nothing else, Singer is important for having turned Anglo American moral philosophy away from the analysis of "moral language" and to the realm of actual ethical dilemmas and moral choices. And finally given the choice of living in a world consistent with the principles of Plato, Aristotle, Augustine, Nietzsche, Marx, or Singer, I would hands down choose Singer; for although there would be beasts and monsters in it too, there would be substantially fewer than in choices A-E, and they would be substantially less likely to bite me. posted by Gena on Friday, March 08, 2002 | link -------------------- Thursday, March 07, 2002Dare I? I Dare! This article from the CIA is a long but fascinating read on the topic of JFK’s assassination. It traces the history of KGB disinformation on the Garrison and other conspiracy theories. It’s fascinating really. I personally think the KGB had JFK assassinated. Think about it. Oswald defects to the Soviet Union, but isn’t arrested, interrogated, or otherwise inconvenienced while there. This is very out of character for the Communists of the 50’s and 60’s. He then marries and defects back to the U.S. He even gets to take his wife with him. Nobody got out of the Soviet Union back then; they held families hostage for years, but not Oswald’s. His wife’s family doesn’t get arrested or harassed by the Soviets either. That’s very unusual. I think Oswald was KBG and killed Kennedy on their orders. Any help he had was Russian. I wonder though, by posting this, do we get on some CIA list? Do we get a “file” of our very own? I wonder what the Spook will think of the CIA moving in on his turf.posted by Lee Ann on Thursday, March 07, 2002 | link Women in the Military. Here’s a better explanation of whether women belong in combat. Mr. Babbin, a former deputy undersecretary of defense, presents his case much more clearly than I did. posted by Lee Ann on Thursday, March 07, 2002 | link Peter Singer?!? Dear God, I thought you said you respected the sanctity of human life! That guy is a Benthamite nightmare. He’s a proponent of involuntary euthanasia, infanticide, and radical wealth redistribution. This is on top of advocating bestiality. He believes humans and animals are morally equivalent. He believes that only fully sentient, reasoning creatures have full rights, which is why you should be able to kill your child any time before its first birthday. Junior a bit of a drag on the social life? Paging Dr. Kevorkian. Grandma got Alzheimer’s? Just pull a Mengele and your inheritance stays intact. This is not a system of ethics, but a system of selfishness, taken to the extreme. Singer’s entire “ethics” is based on whatever is most convenient for the acting subject. The Other is reduced to an object whose value is determined to be whatever the subject decides it to be. The subject/object relation between humans is inherently evil. All humans, whether infants, elderly, disabled, or fully sentient are subjects of equal intrinsic value. Reducing people, even the senile, to the status of objects means the value of those people is determined by an external subject, a subject that could devalue those people on the basis of their own prejudices, avarice, or malice. You see a waste of resources, I see my grandmother. Caring for the disabled is inconvenient, messy, expensive, and requires incredible sacrifice of self. You can get rid of this inconvenience by deciding that the disabled are objects with no beneficial value and thus expendable. Singer places the temporary convenience of the self over the very lives of other people. I thought you said you disapproved of this kind of “calculus.” posted by Lee Ann on Thursday, March 07, 2002 | link PETA Revealed. Here’s the 411 on PETA for you. It’s from Activistcash.com, a group devoted to unveiling the truth behind our favorite anti-consumer organizations. ALF members have been arrested and are under indictment. Some have been convicted. Just google ALF. For the record, I am in favor of animal welfare and despise cruelty to animals. All animals, even those destined for my dinner table, should be treated with kindness, respect, and humanity. However, use of animals for food, clothing, and other consumer goods is a good thing. It benefits both man and beast. Man gets the goods he needs; the animals get a continued existence on this planet. If humans couldn’t use them, cows would be extinct. Ever seen one in the wild? Want one as a pet? I also approve of hunting, and would gladly kill my food myself. Hunting is necessary. Here in Alabama, if we didn’t hunt deer, we would have a major environmental collapse. Deer are overpopulated and are eating themselves, and every other critter, out of house and home. Ever hear a herd of deer starve to death? Ever seen scavengers eat a deer’s eyes when it’s still alive? Humans are part of the natural world. I didn’t fight my way to the top of the food chain to eat tofu. posted by Lee Ann on Thursday, March 07, 2002 | link Distance, Evil, and PETA I read Peter Singer's Animal Liberation when I was in seventh grade, and for that reason it is still hard for me to believe that the author of that book is one of the most famous and controversial philosophers in the world. One of Singer's most famous examples is that of the person who walks past a drowning child. Singer argues that how far away the child is should have no bearing on the moral accountability of the person who walks past it, as long as it is still within the person's power to save it. This seems so obvious to Singer that he doesn't spend much time arguing the point, the example being meant to serve another purpose in the article. And yet, the farther things are from us the more abstract they become, and our culpability seems less, although our actions and their consequences remain the same. Distance is one of the reasons for our tolerance of evil in the world, and our cultivation of it begins at the dinner table. We don't see the deaths of the animals who appear on our plates, we who could never kill them ourselves. We make use of them for our own ends, without ever questioning those ends or looking at the lives they have destroyed. I am guilty of this too, of living every day of my life in a shining emporium of gleaming products and forgotten death. And for that reason I have always felt an admiration for people who try to shock us out of our happy stupor and into seeing the real relations which form the contentment of our lives. In that sense I think PETA does good work, and although it may not provide direct asylum to abused animals, it certainly does seek to force us to recognize the thinking and actions which lead to their abuse. I question whether the ALF is in fact a "terrorist" organization, but would have to know more about its activities before I could argue the point - although it does seem strange to me that the members of this dangerous organization don't seem to be under arrest or indictment. Be that as it may, accusing PETA of funneling money to it, is not enough. One must have conclusive proof, and until one has such proof, PETA should be judged on its own merits, merits which I think support its claim to being a charity. posted by Gena on Thursday, March 07, 2002 | link The Alan Dershowitz Reprehensible Idea Test You know, I'm pretty tolerant of other people's ideas, but there are limits. I've often asked myself where exactly those limits lie, where an idea stops being an abstract subject for debate, and becomes a personal repudiation of the character of the person uttering it. Alan Dershowitz has just come to my rescue. For months now I've being seeing random quotes floating around the internet and other places expressing Mr. Dershowitz's support for torture, and for months I've been looking for the article in which Dershowitz says this. Thanks to Robert Musil - hey, look, intertextuality - I've finally found it, and on the basis of the article I've developed my own unacceptable idea test. Ideas make the people who have them morally reprehensible when they:
posted by Gena on Thursday, March 07, 2002 | link Yes, Lee Ann, poor Tom just can't keep his thumb out of the pie. This you see is why I no longer have a party affiliation. posted by Gena on Thursday, March 07, 2002 | link -------------------- Wednesday, March 06, 2002Consumer Freedom. When you won’t defend your rights on little things, will you defend your rights to important things? Ask Walter Williams. He gives a good analyses of the Nanny State.posted by Lee Ann on Wednesday, March 06, 2002 | link G. I. Gena I am replying to this post at length, because the first half of your post is profound and the last half not very well thought out. Your statement of pacifism I respect very much. I do not happen to agree with your conclusions though. “I believe in the rule of law, the sanctity of human life, and the proposition that violence is the worst failure of the imagination.” I agree with your first two propositions, but not your third. I also believe strongly in the rule of law, and in the impartial application of that law. The rule of law and equality before the law is the foundation for a free and civil society. My view of the sanctity of human life is near absolutist, in that I am anti-abortion and very nearly anti-death penalty. However, my appreciation of human life does feed into my support for judicious military action when it is unavoidable. Violence is not the worst failure of the imagination, passively consenting to tyranny is. “I oppose the calculus of human lives which sacrifices some for the saving others and the advancement of civilization or which sacrifices one person for the saving and advancement of the self.” While this statement is a beautiful sentiment, I don’t think it is as logically valid as it at first appears. Human life and civilization are valuable and must be defended against those who try to destroy them. Do you object to a surgeon amputating a gangrenous finger in order to save the life of a patient? The ship is sinking; there aren’t enough lifeboats; do you save those you can or let everyone die? Sometimes the few have to be sacrificed to save the many. This is usually referred to as heroism, not calculus. When the army stormed Omaha Beach, they sacrificed large numbers of men, but they set in motion the final defeat of the Third Reich. The loss of those many soldiers saved untold millions of lives and advanced civilization by saving it. “The military is a failure of principle in the face of practicality . . .” The military exists to maintain the rule of law amongst nations. The military defends the rights and freedoms you take for granted. The American military swears its loyalty to the Constitution, not to the President or Congress. You claimed earlier to believe in the rule of law and in the sanctity of human life. Many nations and cultures do not share your belief. Idealism will not prevent those nations from exercising their will to power. If you as a pacifist want to be free, someone else is going to have to defend you from others who want to take away your freedom. Recall George Orwell’s admonition: “People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf.” posted by Lee Ann on Wednesday, March 06, 2002 | link G. I Gena Part II. This got too long, so I’m addressing the women in combat part separately. Combat soldiers depend on each other for their survival. Someone who is not up to snuff can get the people around them killed. If women could achieve the same physical standards as men, I say let them be soldiers. Unfortunately they can’t. Women cannot run as fast, hike as far, or carry as much equipment as men can. If female soldiers fall behind on a march in enemy territory, do you leave them to their fate or wait for them? What if waiting endangers the lives of the entire unit? What about the physical and sexual torture women POWs will be specially targeted for? If women can’t carry the supplies they need, someone else has to pick up the slack. Did you know that only 17% of female Marines can throw a grenade far enough away from themselves to avoid being killed when it explodes? Remember Kara Hultgreen, the Air Force pilot who killed herself in a crash because she got promoted to pilot before she qualified to? The Army, Navy, and Air Force have gutted their physical standards to satisfy gender quotas, and it has adversely affected their combat readiness. Why do you think the A-stan campaign relied so heavily on the Marines and Special Forces? Because they have not sacrificed standards for the sake of political correctness. American soldiers should not have to die on the altar of Gender Feminism. posted by Lee Ann on Wednesday, March 06, 2002 | link Tommy Boy. Funny you mention Tom Daschle. There are many reasons to dislike him. Here are a few. Tom’s wife is a lobbyist for the airline industry; no wonder he voted for the bailout. Tom’s biggest contributor is an off-shore banker, who gave money during a time when Tommy was voting on measures designed to combat money laundering. Tom pushed through a bill that relieved Homestake Mining from having to pay to clean up their 125 years of pollution; instead, you and I get to pay for a cleanup with our tax dollars. Tom also got oodles of cash from Global Crossing (not as much as DNC chief Terry McAuliffe). Demron, anyone? posted by Lee Ann on Wednesday, March 06, 2002 | link Eco-Terrorism. PETA should lose its charitable status for many reasons. Their practice of destroying others’ property and assaulting people to raise awareness is vile. They are more of a political action committee than a charity. They make a lot of political ads, but where are the PETA-run animal homes? The primary reason PETA should lose its charity status is that PETA is a primary source of funds for the ALF, the Animal Liberation Front. ALF has a history of bombing and arson on private property and research labs. They have also viciously assaulted (and almost killed) several scientists in England. It is only luck that has kept people from dying. The FBI considers the ALF and ELF to be the major force in domestic terrorism. posted by Lee Ann on Wednesday, March 06, 2002 | link Our great fearless leader George W. Bush has courageously vowed to allow the Israelis and Palestinians to go on killing each other forever. In the face of escalating violence on both sides, Bush refused Hosni Mubarak's plea for U.S. intervention, while at the same time expressing his deep and profound sympathy for the victims of the violence, and thus proving that even a crocodile can cry. posted by Gena on Wednesday, March 06, 2002 | link I wish I were a conservative. If I were a conservative, I could be a Republican, a member of a party where people actually argue their ideas, even when said ideas fall below fifty percent on the popularity meter. Instead I'm a liberal, and what do I have for representation in Washington? A big, ugly, simpering, kowtowing, sycophantic, cowardly pencil. I mean Tom Daschle. posted by Gena on Wednesday, March 06, 2002 | link Lee Ann, you are going to fall out of your seat. We agree. People who steal newspapers and try to stifle dissent are egregious little idiots who suck. I agree with the Berkeley Chancellor: "Such actions are completely antithetical to the values that form the foundation of our democracy, and such actions are particularly egregious in an educational setting." posted by Gena on Wednesday, March 06, 2002 | link Actually I'd say the article on PETA is a prime example of why the speech you cite is not funny. Whatever you may think of PETA and its goals, there is a fundamental difference between slashing a leather coat and piloting a plane into a building. One is an act of protest. It may be offensive. It may be expensive. It may even be vandalism, but it is certainly not murder. The other is murder and it is, therefore, an act of terrorism. Protest becomes terrorism when people die, but if no one is dead, or likely to be dead, an act protest is not an act of terrorism. When the government fails to make that distinction, we are all in danger, for it is a short series of steps from suspecting people who slash coats, to suspecting people who march, to suspecting people who actively dissent, to suspecting people like us, to suspecting everyone who does not tow the party line. After all everyone can be a terrorist and the best way to know that someone is not a terrorist is to know that his views are correct. The step from ideas to violence is often a very small one, and it is reasonable to ensure people's safety by eliminating dangerous ideas. Such reasoning is tempting, and it is the reason that things like the Patriot Act and Bush's Military Order are a game of Russian roulette. The bullet is lodged in the chamber and will remain so if nothing happens when we fire the gun. posted by Gena on Wednesday, March 06, 2002 | link Someone once asked me what I would do if I were the victim of brutal domestic violence. I said I would go to the police, and I said this quite vehemently, because what was running through my head was an image of myself sitting in a quite corner of the library reading up on fast acting and untraceable poisons. I'm a pacifist. I believe in the rule of law, the sanctity of human life, and the proposition that violence is the worst failure of the imagination. For that reason I don't favor extending the right to kill people to anyone, and I certainly don't favor increasing the number of people who have it. On the other hand, I'm not quite sure how else one would deal with Hitler, and I'm not quite sure how I would deal with someone who repeatedly physically assaulted me and who threatened my person and my life. That is to say, I oppose the calculus of human lives which sacrifices some for the saving others and the advancement of civilization or which sacrifices one person for the saving and advancement of the self. Yet, I strongly suspect that were I ever placed in such a situation, someone would be dead, and I am more than certain that if they were not dead, they would have been saved by principle alone. The military is a failure of principle in the face of practicality, and yet part of me is unwilling to relinquish it, the same part that would probably poison her husband, go off to fight Hitler, and support women in combat roles. I do not think this is the best part of me, but on the other hand I cannot say I am glad of the Administration's efforts to exclude women from becoming full participating members of the state mass murder machine. The two parts of me are united in this, however: The purpose of the military is killing, and if we are to have such a thing, participation in it should not be limited on the basis of gender. When we deny people the ability to kill - and here I mean the personal capability of taking another human life - we both reduce them to a state of weakness in the eyes of some, and simultaneously rob them of the choice of not killing; for not killing then becomes a matter of their nature, not a decision against nature and against practicality, a decision predicated upon a belief in a better way to live. posted by Gena on Wednesday, March 06, 2002 | link -------------------- Tuesday, March 05, 2002Prisoners Redux. The Battle of Gardez resulted in one American captured by Al Qaeda. Wonder if they’ll follow the Geneva Conventions? Nope, they just shot him. Other reports say he was dragged to his death behind fleeing Taliban. Isn’t it tragic how those Gitmo detainees have to endure private cells, culturally appropriate meals, medical care, and their own personal Red Cross worker. Maybe if we were more culturally sensitive, we’d treat them like Al Qaeda would.posted by Lee Ann on Tuesday, March 05, 2002 | link Don’t Eat the Brown Acid . . . Too Late. Read this, Gena. Read it; read it; read it. Trust me, you will not be sorry. I haven’t laughed this hard in ages. Dear God somebody actually elected this fool! I can’t even make fun of it; it mocks itself. posted by Lee Ann on Tuesday, March 05, 2002 | link Justice System? Since you mentioned law school, Gena, how about taking a peek at this article. I like Rudy for his post-9/11 actions and for saving New York from being a post-apocalyptic hellhole, but some of his acts as a federal prosecutor were vile. posted by Lee Ann on Tuesday, March 05, 2002 | link People Eating Tasty Animals. Looks like PETA may be losing its tax-exempt status. A free trade organization has lodged a complaint with the IRS, claiming that PETA is no charity. Come on, just because they assault fur wearers, destroy merchandise, and funnel money to eco-terrorists doesn’t mean they’re not charitable, does it? Of course it does! Those veg-head wing-dings and their loud-mouth, nudie girl, gross-out ad tactics should be banished to the ninth circle of hell. I’m all for kindness to animals, but fur is warm, meat tastes good, and you’ll get the milk from my coffee over my (and your) dead body. Cheers, PETA, this T-bone’s for you! posted by Lee Ann on Tuesday, March 05, 2002 | link Censorship Unbound! Here’s an update on the paper theft at Berkeley. The students who stole 3,000 copies of the conservative student newspaper have now issued death threats to the conservative organization. The proto-fascists are a group called “Movimento Estudiantil Chicano de Aztlan” or MECha. MECha is a racist organization dedicated to revolting against “gringos” and to the “liberation” of the "bronze continent by the bronze people." Here’s the article they tried to censor. posted by Lee Ann on Tuesday, March 05, 2002 | link The spokesman for the German Defense Minister says, in so many words, that the US should have kept its mouth shut about the fact German soldiers took part in the most recent offensive in Afghanistan. His reason for wanting to keep this secret was not of course that it was likely to go down like a lead balloon in Germany, but rather "protection of the troops." Raise your hand if you're dumb enough to believe that. And if you are dumb enough to believe it, ask yourself this: how would German troops be endangered by a statement saying simply that they participated in a mission. posted by Gena on Tuesday, March 05, 2002 | link The first terrorism trial is about to get underway in Germany. The accused terrorists are said to be members of Al-Qaida and to have plotted to blow up the Strassburg Christmas market. posted by Gena on Tuesday, March 05, 2002 | link People ask me why I'm so excited about attending law school at UT next year when I could be going to a "better ranked school." I hear this often enough that I'm going come right out and say that this is the most moronic thing I've ever heard. A boatload of famous people isn't worth the one individual who can make you think about a subject in a deep and complex way, and who more importantly can make you want to think about it. There is a joy to walking out of a room and tripping over the hall trash can because you are thinking about something in a way you haven't before, and you want to examine the possibilities, and see a subject you have thought about a thousand times challenged anew and brought to life. And there is no compensation for the lack of that, not even prestige. Thanks to Dr. Stephen Blackwell for having invited me to his class today, and for reminding me what truly makes a university great. posted by Gena on Tuesday, March 05, 2002 | link John Shumaker will become the new president of UT. Most people I've talked to, including many I deeply admire and respect, think that J.S. is wonderful and will be a passionate advocate for the university. I certainly hope this is true, especially since I have always thought that what the university really needs is someone who will get out and fight for it. And at the forum on Friday, he certainly came across as a witty, intellectual, and intelligent man, with an agile mind and a great deal of verbal fire power - in other words as the ideal person to make the university's case to the legislature and the people of the state. Ever the contrarian, however, I'm not completely thrilled and for two reasons: 1. Shumaker supports limiting enrollments and raising tuition in order to conserve resources, and purports not to understand the reasoning behind the university's relatively open admissions. One of the things which makes the university community so interesting, however, is its intellectual, social, and economic diversity. UT students are rich, poor, and middle class, some are high school valedictorians, and some are losers with 2.0 GPAs. And sometimes the best students at the university are those self-same high school losers, bright people who discover a community and an interest, and therefore a desire to utilize their gifts and to excel. There is a humanity in that, in the recognition that the past is no determinate of the future, and that people may grow and change, that given the right environment they may become more than what they were before. And there is a generosity in extending to everyone the opportunity to learn, in letting them succeed or fail, not because they have been preselected to do so, but because they have been given the chance.
More importantly, however, the policy of open admissions gives the university a moral authority that other universities lack, namely the authority of being foremost and truly about learning, not about the creation or perpetuation of a social class or elite. Students who graduate from UT may enjoy more opportunities than those who do not go to college. Superior students may have more options than inferior ones. And yet, the educational opportunities these students have enjoyed are those available to all people of the state, and that is important; for failing at something on your own merits is different from having been denied the chance, and earning your place in society is different from having it artificially conferred upon you. What you make of the educational opportunities given to you is a matter of personal responsibility, but once a university starts selecting who may receive those opportunities and who may not, it becomes about something other than chemistry and Kant.
2. Shumaker expressed a willingness to cut programs, although what he said about "core academic values" and the inclusion of faculty and students in the selection process did allay some people's fears. On the other hand, one wonders exactly what that means. I'm not a particularly big fan of engineering, for instance. I think it's mechanistic, rigid, boring, and I don't understand it. So if someone told me that no one wanted to take nuclear engineering, that other universities in the state had better programs, better faculty and better students, I'd probably think it was just fine to give the nuclear engineering program the ax. And I'd probably overlook the fact that the faculty and students of the program were screaming bloody murder. Value, quality, and relevance are relative terms; judgments based upon them engage the subjective values and interests of the people making them, and being explained the reasons for your execution doesn't change the fact that your head is about to be cut off. posted by Gena on Tuesday, March 05, 2002 | link -------------------- Monday, March 04, 2002Liberalism Boring . . . Losing Consciousness . . . Involves Canadians . . . Read it anyway.posted by Lee Ann on Monday, March 04, 2002 | link Fat Teddy A Racist? Joel Mowbray makes a good case. America’s Drunkest inspires such musings as: “Kennedy undeniably would not have attacked Reynolds if he were a leftist, because that's the "acceptable" worldview for someone who's black. Reynolds probably would have also gotten a free pass if he had served a long stint at the NAACP or the Urban League. But merely holding such expectations about acceptable beliefs or career choices premised upon one's skin color is racist.” Mowbray makes a very good, and well-reasoned, point. Not that St. Kennedy of Dipsomania could ever have a flaw . . . posted by Lee Ann on Monday, March 04, 2002 | link Housewives Vindicated! Au contraire, Gena, I won the housework debate. You might think I would argue that, because you based your argument on a premise (Housewives are oppressed) that is not granted to be philosophically or factually true. You’d be wrong. I really won on three counts: witticism, snarkiness, and clever references to the Three Stooges. Foolish mortal, did you actually think you could win? posted by Lee Ann on Monday, March 04, 2002 | link Hijab Update. The hijab is not inherently oppressive. The Islamic religion requires female modesty. So do Judaism and Christianity for that matter. Most Christians and Conservative, Reform, and Secular Jews interpret these strictures as requiring moral behavior and appropriate dress. Many Orthodox Jewish women still wear a sheitl, or wig, to preserve their modesty. Most others just refrain from wearing trashy clothes in temple or church. The oppression comes in when women have no choice about whether to wear a hijab, chador, or sheitl for that matter. American Muslim women can wear a hijab if they want to, or they can wear no headdress at all. They could wear propeller beanies for Allah if they so desired. There are women in my church who still use lace head shawls because St. Paul said women shouldn’t go bare-headed in church. The point is no one forces them to. My comments about Muslim women being oppressed because they have no other options applies to the Islamic nations of the world, not to America. I should have made that clear. Female Genital Mutilation is another matter. FGM is carried out on little girls who have no say in the matter. They are held down as some old crone hacks off their genitals. If Mrs. Njeri, as a full grown adult, freely chooses to have her body mutilated, she can do so. But she has no right to make that kind of a life altering (and threatening) choice for anyone else, not even her own child. posted by Lee Ann on Monday, March 04, 2002 | link On the subject of the Great Housework Debate, I've decided to finally declare victory and go home - or more precisely to bed. With one caveat. Lee Ann misunderstands a fundamental rule of home economics. Growing corn behind your couch both utilizes space which would otherwise go to waste and provides your family with a valuable cash crop, which may then be sold in order to pay for the hiring of some poor downtrodden soul to clean the rest of the house - but not it goes without saying behind the couch. posted by Gena on Monday, March 04, 2002 | link Not being able to leave a good argument alone: "Circumcision makes women clean, promotes virginity and chastity and guards young girls from sexual frustration by deadening their sexual appetite."
"I understand Muslim women’s sensitivity regarding the recent fatwas (allowing Muslim women to stop wearing the veil) or the question on Oprah’s show. They feel this is who they are and they are not about to quit when the going gets tough. They perhaps even feel somewhat betrayed by such fatwas, since wearing the Hijab (veil) has not always been easy anyway in a society which has equated it with gender oppression and fanaticism."
Women never oppress themselves or consent to their oppression. This explains why so many Muslim women veil themselves without the benefit of the religious police and why the genital mutilation of female children is both carried out and defended by their female relatives. And of course it demolishes my entire thesis as to why people consent to their own oppression, since - as the above quotes make clear - this never happens
I should clarify one thing. The quote by Afra Jalabi is part of a very interesting article on Muslim women and the role of the veil after Sept. 11, and is something that should be read, along with the rest of the site. My use of the quote is simply meant to show that a seemingly large number of Muslim women wear the veil voluntarily, and moreover that these same women reacted negatively when the Imams published fatwas in "Al Majalah magazine a couple of weeks ago-- allowing women to remove their scarves in the wake of recent events."
I do wonder though if you wouldn't get yourself into a great deal of trouble trying to believe all at once that the veil is an example of Muslim women's oppression, that Muslim women continue to wear the veil even when they have the option of not doing so, and that "Muslim women are oppressed because they have no other option." Of course, this may simply be a product of all the things rattling about in my head. posted by Gena on Monday, March 04, 2002 | link -------------------- Sunday, March 03, 2002Back from the German Immersion weekend, and feeling like a language salad: German, Russian and English. You therefore probably don't want that tonight I anything post, since something like this sentence it probably sound will. On the other hand, I took Lee Ann's philosophy quiz, and I'm sure both you and Ayn Rand will be surprised to learn that she turned up fifth on my list. Wherever she is, it is no doubt both a consolation and a joy that thanks to the internet this aficionado of economic regulation has landed squarely in her camp. Not to mention: How on earth can one person be 67% Ayn Rand and 78% prescriptivism? This is why computers and philosophy are a natural match: neither of them makes a lot of sense to a lot of people.
posted by Gena on Sunday, March 03, 2002 | link Welcome Back. The Child of the 80s is back and better than ever with his own site. Here’s his take on the Security Systems Standards and Certification Act. Yes, you should care, and very deeply, about this. Excuse me, Senator Hollings? Did I hear you say something about “cash and carry government”? posted by Lee Ann on Sunday, March 03, 2002 | link Peace, Love and Festive Hors D’oeuvres. The multiculturalist’s view of the world has always been naïve and shallow. Cultures are reduced to quaint costumes, tasty recipes, and whatever else floats the ethno-tourist’s boat. The ethno-tourists sniff at how provincial the West is compared to the picturesque East, all the while not-so-subtly hinting at how morally superior the ethno-tourists themselves are for pointing this out. Unfortunately, the quaint peoples of the world keep making fools of the multi-culties. Take those cute Middle Easterners. A chilling article from the Washington Post shows how mainstream radical Islamism has become. Al Qaeda-type recruitment videos, anti-Western, and anti-Semitic polemics are filling the shelves at Western mosques, all without a peep of protest from the allegedly peaceful Muslims. What’s a free society to do? We can’t ban the stuff unless it violates specific laws. So unless there is a major cultural shift towards exposing and denouncing this sort of material, radical Islamism will continue to gain ground among disaffected and alienated youths. posted by Lee Ann on Sunday, March 03, 2002 | link Assigned Reading. Remember assigned readings? Being ordered to read a certain book at a certain time? Not me, no more. It occurs to me how freeing it is to be reading what I want, when I want. I’ve always been a reader, but I hated being told to read. I hated the books I was assigned just because they were assigned. I almost gave up reading entirely in grad school. Now I can read as my fancy dictates. I had almost forgotten the tingle of pleasure that shivers up my spine when I get to a good part. I can savor again the smell of newly opened pages. I can let my mind wander over passages without falling behind some professor’s schedule. Heck, I can even ruminate. I can read edifying Literature; I can read brain candy. I am master of my soul; I am dictator of my library. Oh yeah. There’s this article by Joseph Epstein on New York’s “One City, One Book” project. posted by Lee Ann on Sunday, March 03, 2002 | link Shadow Government. I was so excited to hear about this. I pictured villainous characters, Edward G. Robinson or Christopher Walkin perhaps, hunched over a table, in a seedy room on the wrong side of the tracks, plotting world domination. Instead I get 100 federal bureaucrats moved to a secure location to prevent a terrorist attack from disrupting the workings of the federal government. A shadow government implies a secret group that really runs the country, behind a puppet president. This is a contingency plan in place since the 50’s. The president certainly should have informed Congress he was activating the plan, but this hardly warrants an inflammatory term like “shadow government.” Media scandalmongering, anyone? posted by Lee Ann on Sunday, March 03, 2002 | link Philosophy Test. You'll love this, Gena. Answer a few moral/ philosophical questions and see which philosophers you most relate to. My scores were Augustinian 100%, followed by Aquinas 90%, Ockham 87%, Kant 71%, and Mill 69%. I was least like Hobbes 0%, Stoics 7%, Neitzsche 8%, and Hume 12%. Interesting. Thanks to NRO for the heads up on this one. Monty Python had a song for this, didn’t they? posted by Lee Ann on Sunday, March 03, 2002 | link -------------------- Saturday, March 02, 2002Derb Returns This is a very evocative rumination on death and life. Few people can write with such a delicate sense of subject. More’s the pity.posted by Lee Ann on Saturday, March 02, 2002 | link Euro-trash Alert! An intrepid reporter from the London Guardian trekked into deepest, darkest Alabama to gauge the soul of America. Not a bad idea, if Reporter Engel weren’t Dieter’s snootier English cousin. Our unprejudiced paragon of journalistic integrity found that Alabamians are hospitable but provincial. It seems us Dixie-darlings are completely uninterested in our Continental betters. Engel had this revelation at that Mecca of Magic City culture, the Olive Garden. Eating at the Olive Garden must be a trait of the Euro elite, because Birminghamians, like myself, prefer restaurants that don’t serve cardboard entrees. We go to provincial places like Surin (Thai), Sakura (Japanese), Rue de Provence (French), El Sol (Pan-Latin), Klinghoffer’s (German), Dixieland (BBQ), Connie K’s (Slap-yo’-mama-good), Bottega (Med fusion), or even Cobb lane (up-scale Southern). Maybe we rednecks were more impressed with England when they still had the vibrant and vigorous culture that produced the beautiful artworks in the Birmingham Museum of Art, which Engel never bothered to visit. No, Engel presumes that real culture is found in the stripmalls dotting the interstates. Oh, that’s where we’re supposed to keep our culture! Dang, us Magic City Morons had been keeping it in our museums, theaters districts, Shakespeare festivals, historic gardens, and the like. In my own defense, my friends and I often went clubbing dressed as Euro-trash girls. posted by Lee Ann on Saturday, March 02, 2002 | link -------------------- Friday, March 01, 2002One Last Toke on the Lysol Bong. “When we were roommates, how did you feel about the fact that you had to do most of the cleaning?” I don’t love you and did not choose to dedicate my life to your care. I am not your mother. Oh yeah, save me a bushel of the corn that grows behind your couch.posted by Lee Ann on Friday, March 01, 2002 | link Whatever You Are Smoking, Please Share. Now for Part II. “the 19th century students who went out into the Russian countryside to educate the peasants.” How’d the Norodniks get in here? You know what those people do to the property values! Housewives are like 19th century Russian peasants? Voluntary choice to be a housewife; serfs held in chains by the threat of rampaging Cossacks. Gee, why didn’t I think of that? Wait, I’m not on crack. That’s why. “Now given the oppression, poverty, and disenfranchisement of said Russian peasants, you would think that they would be the section of society readiest to embrace reform. As the unfortunate students found out, however, this wasn't true.” I was going to nail you on this, but someone beat me to the punch. Take it away Andy Freeman: “One may be quite willing to embrace reform, yet unwilling to embrace a particular change. . . Given American experience with clueless but conceited students wandering around trying to educate the masses, there might well be another explanation as to why the students were ignored.” "the same reason that many Muslim women directly support governments and practices which we Americans see as discriminatory . . ." From oppressed serfs to burka babes? I don’t care how many voices are in your head, let only one voice post at a time. Muslim women are oppressed because they have no other option. When they demand a change in their social status, they are subject to beatings, prison, torture and murder. Yup, just like in America. I can’t remember how many times the Notorious G.U.P. has threatened to bust a cap on La Bella Mama when she told him to take his dish to the sink. The rest of your argument collapses like a sandcastle in a hurricane, owing to the logical fallacy upon which it is built. You are assuming that housewifery is oppressive and that women have wholesale rejected it (or should). Housewife is a voluntary choice. Choice! Option! Freely accepted; freely refused. This entire rant-fest started because of an article dealing with women who do not choose to be housewives, preferring, like Marie Antoinette, to use anti-clutter books as a means of play-acting. posted by Lee Ann on Friday, March 01, 2002 | link Gena, The Pundit Logic Forgot. First, take your medicine before you post. Your logical fallacies are stunning and quite beneath you. I will demolish them in order, although I hope my post will not be the Dostoevskiian doorstop you created. “Materialism is for Flanagan rather like a bullet hole in a dead body - a nasty effect of an undesirable cause. And the undesirable cause in this case is feminism.” Flanagan did not make mention of Feminism. She is discussing the general neglect of the home and the self-help craze. The words "rich," "affluent," "professional-class," "up-scale," and "upper-middle class" are all subjective terms commonly used by the middle and upper-middle classes to describe themselves. The middle class describes itself as “professional” to avoid being confused with the working class, which describes itself as “middle class.” In case you hadn’t noticed, the American middle classes are “Americans of substantial means.” Your class warfare rhetoric is undermined by the fact that everyone in America has moved up a social notch since the Victorian era. “Flanagan does not talk specifically about servants.” “And the reason she couldn't chalk it up to the evils of feminism . . .” OK, she’s not talking about these things, but you attack her positions on them anyway? Quite frankly, your diatribe seems to reflect less of what Flanagan said, and more of Gena’s cluttered psyche. Paging Dr. Howard, Dr. Fine, Dr. Howard. posted by Lee Ann on Friday, March 01, 2002 | link Lee Ann put me on to this. Police in Germany think someone painted a horse green out of jealousy. This is not something I've worried about before. However, just to make sure no one tries anything funny while I'm away at the German Immersion weekend. To all those jealous, jilted guys waiting with cans of paint, Arion says that he's red now, but will really be red should anyone attempt to paint him. He especially does not want to be green. posted by Gena on Friday, March 01, 2002 | link Instapundit and Child of the 80s call our housekeeping debate a catfight. This is inaccurate, of course, since everyone knows that liberals don't have claws. We just politely disagree with you until you relax, at which time we hit you over the head with a sledge hammer. In regard Flanagan's article:
I don't dispute that Flanagan is writing about clutter, books about clutter, and the "anti-clutter movement" - yes, even two years of Kuzniar, Downing, and crew couldn't destroy my reading ability to that extent and I would even concede that Flanagan is against the materialism this clutter implies. On the other hand, I don't think as far as Flanagan's thesis goes "because there is too much materialism" comes after "there is too much clutter." Materialism is for Flanagan rather like a bullet hole in a dead body - a nasty effect of an undesirable cause. And the undesirable cause in this case is feminism.
As to which social class Flanagan is writing about, a fast perusal of the article reveals the following: "The "Eastern art" of feng shui is practiced in thousands of upscale, with-it households," the whole miserable mess that is American family life as it is lived at a certain economic level," "De-cluttering a household is a task that appeals strongly to today's professional-class woman," "current upper-middle-class practice," "so many affluent American households," "Many Americans of substantial means." Nowhere does Flanagan mention the middle class - if you can find where she does, I'll send George Bush a love letter. "Rich," "affluent," "professional-class," "up-scale," and "upper-middle class," may mean different things to different people, but one thing they do mean to everyone is: large amount of disposable income.
Flanagan does not talk specifically about servants. That I grant you. On the other hand she does say: "The current upper-middle class practice of outsourcing even the most intimate tasks may free up valuable time for an important deposition, but it by no means raises the caliber of one's home life." We may disagree about what exactly a servant is. To me a person hired to delouse your children, clean your toilet bowl, or organize your closet is a servant. Whether this is true or not, such a person is certainly performing tasks people living at a "certain economic level" have always "outsourced" to others, others who were once commonly known as servants. Flanagan's contention at least seems to be not only that this practice "by no means raises the caliber of one's home life," but that it is a new phenomenon. And she has to say it's a new phenomenon, since if it weren't a new phenomenon she couldn't chalk it up along with the trash heap of discarded cappuccino makers to the evils of feminism. And the reason she couldn't chalk it up to the evils of feminism is the obvious one: people "outsourced" domestic duties long before feminism was ever an intimation. It is also I would imagine one reason she fails to mention the middle class. Flanagan's rant about "outsourcing" domestic duties might seem irrelevant to an article about clutter. For Flanagan however outsourcing and clutter are linked, for they both indicate a general abdication of domestic responsibilities. Yet, bringing the middle class into it would de-link them fast, since most middle class people - depending on how you define middle class of course - either don't have the income or aren't willing to spend it on hiring someone to do their housework, and as you said "people with servants don’t buy housekeeping manuals." posted by Gena on Friday, March 01, 2002 | link Housework Part II Now to the really fun part. Since you've mentioned your mother, you have effectively neutralized my ability to respond to your criticism of the second part of my post, since anything I say in defense of the views I expressed will be seen as an insult to your mother. Leaving your mother out of it, however.... Back in the good old days when I was an undergraduate, I took a class on Russian culture in which we learned about all the 19th century students who went out into the Russian countryside to educate the peasants. Now given the oppression, poverty, and disenfranchisement of said Russian peasants, you would think that they would be the section of society readiest to embrace reform. As the unfortunate students found out, however, this wasn't true. In fact, Russian peasants, serfs, and former serfs were the most conservative members of society, and the most resistant to change. It certainly wasn't in their interest to be so, and few people today would choose the life of a 19th century Russian peasant, which begs the question of why the peasants embraced their social position with such fanaticism. I would say it is the same reason that many Muslim women directly support governments and practices which we Americans see as discriminatory (or worse). In fact, I would say that it is the reason women throughout history have willingly participated in what we would see as their oppression. And the reason is that the societies which oppress them are the societies in which they live, and unless they see themselves as somehow separate from those societies, unless that is they see their position as something artificially imposed upon them without their consent, the lives they have led in the context of those societies are their lives and appear to them to be the lives ordained for them or the ones they have chosen to lead. To criticize the society, or the relations between its members is to call into question the lives the members of that society have led. To be told that you are oppressed is to be told that the life you have led is not the best one you could have led. In other words, to tell the Russian peasants that they needed education and to work toward bettering their economic lot was to tell them that they were poor and ignorant, that other people were not poor and ignorant, and that being poor and ignorant was undesirable, which was to say that the life of a Russian peasant, their life, was undesirable and needed to be changed. This is why the students weren't popular, and it is why "feminism" isn't either. Yet, the question becomes: should you fail to challenge someone because the challenge will offend them or call into question how they have lived? What will happen to the society if you do not? Most likely it will go on as it has. Is this acceptable? Does it really matter how people live? Is the freedom from challenge and discomfort worth more than the prospect of a better way of living? Are you a better person if you fail to question your choices and your life? Is the unexamined society worth living in? And if the challenge is wrong aren't you better for having heard it; for having been forced to truly look at yourself and your values? Whether the life of a housewife is a constricting one or not, it is certainly not one every woman would choose. The thesis of Flanagan's article, however, is not that the life of a housewife is a valuable one and one that should be attractive to women. Instead Flanagan says that women who do not choose this role are women whose homes and families suffer. Indeed she goes further. She says someone should devote herself principally to the house. Women are the ones most willing to do this. Ergo, although there is no logical connection between the aforementioned premise and this conclusion, women should do it. To not do it is to abdicate your responsibility to your home and your family. And since you are upper-middle class or affluent, that is to say since you presumably have the income that working is not a matter of economic necessity, the clutter of your house, and the presumptive unhappiness of your family are your fault. In this way, a role is created, as well as the mechanism for its enforcement: Do this, or you are a bad person, an unfit wife and mother. Should it become current in our society, women who assume the role of housewife will not be doing so because they choose "freely, willingly, and with great forethought devote themselves to their families." It will be a social mandate, an expectation, the flaunting of which will lead to disapprobation and excoriation of those who do so. To discriminate against someone on the basis of gender is illegal in this country, but how welcome would you be, if you were married and walked into an office where everyone felt that you should be staying home and were abandoning your children by not doing so. That is something to think about before defending people like Flanagan; for it is very much your life and how you live it that is on the line. In essence, I think, you were accusing me of doing exactly what I'm accusing Flanagan of doing. In this view, Flanagan and I are essentially traveling along in the same boat although paddling in opposite directions. That both is and is not true. I believe that people, all people have the right to freely determine their own lives. I also believe that some ways of living are better than others, and that it is both necessary and right to question the society in which you live and the relations between the people who live in it. Flanagan might agree with the first statement or she might not, but she falls down hard on the second one. And the evidence for that is that she does not write about women as individuals, so much as members of a group who behave a certain way and are suited for a certain role. The fact that they are not fulfilling that role means that they are living badly. I, however, put equal weight on the first statement, and thus would say that people have the right to choose to be housewives, and that some people might find a great deal of fulfillment living that way, and that indeed that way of living might be the best way for them. At the same time I would still call it into question, and I would certainly disagree with the proposition that it is the way everyone should live, whether they want to live that way or not. And I might add. When we were roommates, how did you feel about the fact that you had to do most of the cleaning? Did you think it was just fine for me to behave that way? As I recall, there were some fantasies about my being immolated on a burning pyre. Any connection to the mountain of papers beside my chair? posted by Gena on Friday, March 01, 2002 | link -------------------- Thursday, February 28, 2002Capitalism and Charity. Capitalism, aka the free market, is the best assurance of individual and societal prosperity. Turns out, capitalism is also the best spur towards charity and generosity to the less fortunate. People are most generous to others when their own needs are secure. Capitalism provides the economic security necessary to inspire charity. The cold-hearted businessman is a tired Marxist myth.posted by Lee Ann on Thursday, February 28, 2002 | link Reason Number 4,387 to Hate Ted Kennedy. He named his dog Splash. That is sick. Truly sick. posted by Lee Ann on Thursday, February 28, 2002 | link Liberal Censorship. Looks like the self-proclaimed progressives have struck again. The entire run of Berkeley’s conservative newspaper has been stolen. This happens a lot at our universities. Wouldn’t want any of that free speech on campus. Could lead to a free and open debate. That might lead to dialogue and the rational discussion of ideas. Whew! Good Berkeley nipped this “free press” thing in the bud. posted by Lee Ann on Thursday, February 28, 2002 | link -------------------- Wednesday, February 27, 2002THEM!!! You know them. The secret societies who really run the world. Conspiracy theorists have argued about who's the top behind-the-scenes string-puller. I say it's the U.N. and the E.U. Gena thinks it's the Vast Right Wing Conspiracy (VRWC). We are both wrong. It's the Easier For Them Association. The EFTA! Of course. It all makes sense now. The Derb explains.posted by Lee Ann on Wednesday, February 27, 2002 | link Next Time Read the Article. Your comments on Flanagan's article are flat out wrong. Flanagan is writing her an article/ review of popular anti-clutter housekeeping manuals. The manuals are indicative of the lifestyles of the nouveau riche who accumulate quantities of goods, let those goods pile up, and then buy a book which tells them to throw out the old things and buy new ones. The people who buy such manuals are in such a mess because they let their homes “go,” as it were, instead of regularly cleaning them. Flanagan’s point is that if you have a home, someone should take responsibility for it. Modern manual buyers never bother to keep up their homes, whether from ignorance, laziness, or never-even-thought-of-it-ness. The manuals don’t help you clean up, they just feed into a cycle of irresponsible materialism. The article does not take up the issue of servants and only deals with the middle and upper-middle classes, who typically do their own housework. People with servants don’t buy housekeeping manuals. She is also right when she says that women are “more willing to do” housework. Men are more willing to live in filth than women are. The person with the higher hygiene standards will end up doing the cleaning. Remember when we roomed together? Remember who cleaned more? Furthermore, little miss feminazi, your ending paragraph pisses me off to an extent where you are lucky we don’t live in the same state. My mother is a housewife. She is the one “who cares deeply and principally about that home and the people who live in it.” She does, and has always done, the cooking, cleaning, laundry, diapering, chauffeuring and everything else that needed to be done. Far from being the mindless automaton that you accuse her of being, she is better informed, more thoughtful, and more engaged than the self-absorbed career women that you seem to prefer. God forbid a woman should be interested in her family. She, as well as every other housewife I know, is interested in the arts, literature, beauty, and everything that makes the world live. Housewives are lively, passionate, and energetic people. It’s just that they include their families in their joy while the egoists of Gena-land “forget” the school trip they were to chaperon, or are ”too busy” to feed their families anything other than Taco Hell, and leave women like my mother to pick up the slack. Don’t feel sorry for my mother, or any other housewife. They are not destroyed little untermensch. They have endless humor, mischief, and fun, mostly because they have families to share those qualities with. Housewife is a feminist choice. Homemakers freely, willingly, and with great forethought devote themselves to their families. Nobody forces them, although I’m sure you would try to harass them into making a more “approved” choice. Housewives choose to live their lives their way, on their schedules, and on their terms. Their husbands and children not only don’t pity them, we adore them; cherish them; stand in awe of them. The greatest love is the love of the Other; the greatest gift is the gift of yourself. From the housewives, househusbands, and the spouses and children of homemakers: Bite me Gena Lewis. You suck! posted by Lee Ann on Wednesday, February 27, 2002 | link If you can't win with the truth, win with a lie. Donald Rumsfeld closed, or at least says he closed, the office that was supposed to disseminate false information to foreign presses. The goal of this operation was the fostering of pro American sentiment. This really makes you wonder how Rumsfeld and others at the Pentagon view the "War on Terrorism." If it's really that great, why isn't the truth enough to convince the world to view America and its actions favorably? posted by Gena on Wednesday, February 27, 2002 | link There are lots of things to like about Germany. Mandatory military service isn't one of them. Now the Federal Constitutional Court could throw it out entirely. Let's hope it does. posted by Gena on Wednesday, February 27, 2002 | link Well, I knew someone would say it eventually. Caitlin Flanagan writes in this month's Atlantic that housework and that fabled thing "the home" should be the province of someone. Ah, the suspense. Who could she mean? To whom should such a lofty task be appointed? Duh. Leaving aside the question of whether it's in entirely good taste to write an article in which you constantly describe yourself as "affluent" and bemoan the fact you have so much stuff you don't know what to do with it all, the article itself deserves to be taken seriously. Some things deserve to be taken seriously because they're interesting, others because they're stupid and dangerous. Flanagan's article falls into the later category. Let's start with what's obvious. Way back when in the good old days, according to Flanagan, before feminism sent everything to hell in a hand basket "affluent" women did all the housework themselves and scrubbing the toilet bowl was not "a bit of nastiness that" could "be fobbed off on poor and luckless enough to qualify for no better employment." To anyone who has ever seen a movie, this must come as a shock; for it is a commonly held belief, one played out by Hollywood, that rich people have always had servants. In fact, both my mother's parents grew up in homes where dinner was the province of the cook, and cleaning that of the maid. My mom was raised without the advantage of a cook, but there was still a maid. By the time I came along, there was neither a cook nor a maid, and the explanation for that is the obvious one - we weren't rich anymore.
Can this really come as a surprise to Flanagan? Can she really believe rich people farming out housework is a new phenomenon or a result of feminism? Or has she created a fictitious past and set of social relations in order to stack the deck in her favor and in the hope that people will be too stupid to see through her. Disingenuous or simply dumb, Flanagan is in any case someone whose writing skates along an incline. She says that housework is something women "are more willing to do," and that despite feminists' belief "that liberated, right-on men will gladly share equally in domestic concerns," the "legions of eligible men who enjoy nothing more than an industrious morning spent tidying the living room and laundering the dust ruffle have yet to materialize." In other words, for a woman to do housework, she must be "willing" to do it. Not so with men. A man must "gladly share in domestic concerns." In fact, he must "enjoy" housework. Housework for men is characterized not as a necessity or an obligation, or even as a matter of choice. For a man, housework is a preference; it is something he does gladly, something he actively enjoys. A man who does not enjoy housework is a man who cannot be expected to do housework. Since most men do not enjoy housework, most men cannot be expected to do housework; and thus the likely candidate for the job becomes the woman, the question of whose pleasure is irrelevant. She must only be willing.
Reading Flanagan's article, I thought of my car, of the books, papers, and old coats strewn across the back seat, of the unemptied drinks crammed into the cup holder, of the half eaten ham sandwich moldering on the floor atop the containers of takeout pasta from Fazoli's, beside my horse's carrots, my muddy shoes, and Dante's fluorescent pink leash. I'm a woman; I'm a pig; and in direct contravention of Flanagan's thesis I am not willing to clean.
What would induce me to change my mind? The suggestion that the man I love should be "someone who cares deeply and principally about that home and the people who live in it" would do it. Indeed, nothing would make me lunge for the broom closet faster than that. Why? Because our thoughts and our mental lives are to a large extent taken up with the things we are engaged in. A man whose days revolved around cleaning, laundering, cooking, changing diapers, and playing chauffeur would find not only his time, but also his thoughts occupied by those things. The question of how to get the pot roast on in time for dinner when the kids had to be at the soccer game at 8 would take precedence over Kant, and the home and the logistics of family life would gradually become not only the focus of his life, and the thing about which he knew most, but the thing he principally cared about. I would think of the man I once knew; an active, passionate, and engaged person, someone who cared about literature, music, ideas, and the world; someone with a sense of humor, of mischief, and of fun. I would miss that person. More than that I would feel a profound sense of guilt for having destroyed something so beautiful; for having reduced a person so fine to the barest version of himself. To avoid that I would gladly submit to a bit of clutter or even full-scale domestic disorder, and I would certainly pick up a broom and help. So much contemporary "feminism" makes me angry because it forgets or makes trivial something which is not: that individuals should be free to determine their lives, and that forcing people into categories and pre-ordained roles is an act of violence against the individual in that it restricts how s/he may think, act, and live. And it forgets that the greatest love and the greatest gift is the invitation to share someone else's life, to inhabit the complexity and the beauty that is someone else's world. We forget that at our own peril and at the peril of those we love. It is an argument which needs to be made.
All of which is to say: Bite me Caitlin Flanagan and the Atlantic Monthly. You suck! posted by Gena on Wednesday, February 27, 2002 | link -------------------- Tuesday, February 26, 2002What you said made me thinkAm I really right, or could it be left To chance or to whim, of political affiliation am I to be bereft? This seems a common malady, and me to instapudit does it link. Big government is well and good, but that of course depends, On what you mean by big. Capitalism is not democracy And to say you're good but give no help to the poor or to the land is hypocrisy But law and liberty there must be, and when there's not, freedom descends Into tyranny. I favor regulation of the environment and of the economy But think we must be careful too that government does not tread on you and me And for that we must watch, and never allow The windows to be painted over, or a guard to be posted at the door Even in the name of National Security we must abhor Such violence to our state, lest there be a time when we may not cry foul. posted by Gena on Tuesday, February 26, 2002 | link -------------------- Monday, February 25, 2002Back to the Madrassa. Whoa, Gena, this brings me back to the good old days at the madrassa of comp. lit. I can hear it now, that overblown jargon substituting for original thought. Having to explain to a PhD that the social norms of 19th century Protestant Germany are useless when analyzing 18th century Catholic France. Dr. Eric D., with his degrees from Berkeley and Harvard, never realizing that Catholics and Protestants use the same words but mean different things (i.e. the meaning of the word “faith”), and thus his analyses of The Confessions was informed by the wrong religious terminology and traditions. This trip down memory lane is inspired by this story of a SUNY trustee pointing out the lack of intellectual rigor in the university’s black studies program and getting labeled a racist for her trouble. Said trustee wrote for the Chronicle of Higher Education on the harassment of traditionally religious students at some colleges, which is mentioned in the article but isn’t online yet.posted by Lee Ann on Monday, February 25, 2002 | link Orientalism vs. Westernism. Why has the West experienced unprecedented freedom and prosperity while the Middle East has stagnated in corruption and government-induced poverty? According to Victor David Hanson, it’s the culture, stupid! This is an excellent essay on the cultural underpinnings of freedom and oppression. Well worth reading, printing out, and reading again. A sample: “The fact is that democracy does not spring fully formed from the head of Zeus but rather is an epiphenomenon--the formal icing on a pre-existing cake of egalitarianism, economic opportunity, religious tolerance and constant self-criticism. The former cannot appear in the Muslim world until gallant men and women insist upon the latter--and therein demolish the antidemocratic and medieval forces of tribalism, authoritarian traditionalism and Islamic fundamentalism. posted by Lee Ann on Monday, February 25, 2002 | link Campaign Finance Reform. Thomas Sowell’s latest brilliant column takes on CFR. The most egregious abridgment of our First Amendment rights is headed towards the president’s desk. The major media companies and incumbent politicians are granted exclusive voter-lobbying rights during the crucial 60 days before an election. If GE wants to plug a candidate, they can do so with their NBC division. If you want to do so, you go to jail. If W. won’t veto the Shays-Meehan Incumbent Protection Bill, our only hope is that SCOTUS is willing to defend our constitutional rights. Let us pray. posted by Lee Ann on Monday, February 25, 2002 | link Is that all you got? Leftist limerick and haiku, huh? You know, us conservatives have moved on to sonnets and Homeric epic. posted by Lee Ann on Monday, February 25, 2002 | link -------------------- Sunday, February 24, 2002Outraged limerick and hyperbolic haiku contest. I'm sick and am therefore taking an evening's hiatus from posting. That doesn't mean, however, that the multitudes of perfidious scoundrels I've discovered today can rest easy. On the contrary, they shall not only be slain in prose, but massacred in poetry as well - as Lee Ann says, "sometimes prose is not enough." To this end I am inaugurating the first ever Spinsters.com leftist poetry contest. Send me either:Your best outraged limerick on any subject which reduces you to bug-eyed incoherent rage and inevitably leads to an attack of verse
Or
Your best hyperbolic haiku about the great Administration/ Congress document heist
Entries should be received by Thursday of next week, and should be sent as text - no attachments, please - to: posted by Gena on Sunday, February 24, 2002 | link Finally! The FBI finally got around to working on the anthrax mystery. The Washington Times reports that the FBI are close to an arrest. Seems the suspect worked at a U.S. government lab. The Guardian had this earlier, but this is the first I've seen of it in an American paper. There are accusations of foot-dragging by the FBI. Considering their recent scandals, I'm not surprised. I'd like to think that this is only them making sure they have a really solid case. I'd like to think that. I really would. posted by Lee Ann on Sunday, February 24, 2002 | link Fat Teddy Returns. Everyone’s favorite lecherous baboon is getting the evisceration he deserves. While the media is putting out puff pieces in honor of Teddy the Hut’s 70th birthday, I will be hoping that someone leads this bloated, boozed-up circus bear back to his cage. posted by Lee Ann on Sunday, February 24, 2002 | link Check This Out Too. I've been meaning to steer you towards the Muslimpundit. He's out of England and has one of my favorite blogs. I check him as often as Instapundit. posted by Lee Ann on Sunday, February 24, 2002 | link Check it out Gena, let me introduce you to the Child of the Eighties. This site is worth a lengthy peruse. The fact that he linked us is just gravy. Check him out. No, not that way. posted by Lee Ann on Sunday, February 24, 2002 | link Live From London This week’s entire issue of the Spectator is worth linking. It has articles on the continuing saga of Bjorn Lomborg, nuclear power, and fashionable anti-Americanism. The article about the irregularities of the taxpayer funded BBC is right up your alley. Mark Steyn’s article is, as always, worth its own link. Here are some choice tidbits: “Say what you like about those wacky Islamofascists but at least they revile America as the Great Satan. By contrast, to Europe, America is now and for ever the Great Moron.” “The EU supposedly fears massive ‘destabilisation’ of the Muslim world. I say, bring it on, baby. If we don’t destabilise them now, they’re going to be destablilising us the day after tomorrow.” There are plenty more great quotes, but you get the drift. He not only addresses your fears about Afghan civilian casualties, he quotes quotes Instapundit while doing it. posted by Lee Ann on Sunday, February 24, 2002 | link Full Circle? It has been said that the extremes of the far left and far right constitute the same totalitarian movement. It appears that the Chinese are proving this dictum true. Has Chinese communism become fascism? Ledeen makes a convincing arguement for "yes." This article is also notable for using the term fascism correctly. posted by Lee Ann on Sunday, February 24, 2002 | link Gambling in Casablanca? You mean you've finally discovered that big government is not a good thing? The government is trampling on the rights of the people? I'm shocked. Shocked, I tell you! Careful, Gena, you are starting to sound like a conservative. posted by Lee Ann on Sunday, February 24, 2002 | link I love your poem about Ted Kennedy. That is without a doubt one of the funniest things I have ever read. I absolutely adore it; I can't stop laughing. Oh, my goodness, rock on. posted by Gena on Sunday, February 24, 2002 | link Oh, my God. I truly don't have a witty comment. For once in my life I am so outraged I am utterly speechless. Read this article. If you read nothing else, read this. All those people talking about the EU and it's lack of transparency. What the Hell?! Who bloody, freaking cares? Let the stupid idiotic EU be opaque, let it cover its windows with sack cloth, and implode into a heap of dust. Bugger the bloody Europeans! We're building a totalitarian state RIGHT here, and what are we talking about - Europe!!!! And all the while back at the ranch, you can't go to the IRS reading room without being shadowed by a government employee; thousands of documents are disappearing; a bunch of idiot congressmen want to let industry do the same thing, destroy or hide documents that is - poor Enron collapsed too early, - and statistics about hazardous waste sites are no longer available to the public, all in the name of national security. Thieves. Defilers of the Public Trust. Bait for Carrion Crows and Incubators of Pests. Traitors. Infidels. Morons. Communists. Fascists. Diiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiipwads. No transparency in government, no transparency in industry. Good-bye George. Hello Joe. Yes, I can feel it coming on, a censorship induced poetry attack. Let us not to the meeting of true minds admit impediments Love is not love which alters when it alteration finds But it bends with the remover to remove Oh, no it is an ever fixed mark That looks on tempests and makes sure we're shaken It is the stone to every wandering bark Who's sunken fast before his height be taken Love's not time's fool, though reasons just and dead pale cheeks Within time's revealing sickle's compass come Love alters not with his brief hours and weeks But bears it out, even to the edge of doom. If this be error and upon me proved I never writ nor no man ever loved. posted by Gena on Sunday, February 24, 2002 | link Poor Laura Sessions Stepp of the Washington Post is suffering from CDWDIS - Can't Decide Which Decade I'm in Syndrome. This is an increasingly common malady among those who write about "women" - since after all women must have characteristics they all share, otherwise it would be impossible to write about them as a group. The question then becomes: what characteristics? And this is where female taxonomy really takes flight. The trajectory is, of course, quite simple. It starts off with chromosomes, gains altitude with chimps - or impalas, cats, dogs, Egyptian Crocodiles, really any animal species will do, - reaches its apogee with Greek letters, and ends up in the Land of Neither Here nor There, a fine though somewhat perplexing place where the inhabitants say things like: "Along the way, betas may evolve into the third type of girl, a girl who rules based not on what she appears to be but on what she does. This girl isn't easily labeled because her role is changing as women's roles change. We'll call her a gamma...
Gammas start coming into their own in high school, and one of the first things they learn is that it's not easy to cultivate leadership and stay agreeable."
The Land of Neither Here Nor There is never hard to find. You can recognize it by the polish of the inhabitants and the confusion of the poor, benighted, country bumpkins who somehow end up there through a wrong click of the mouse and stand staring like startled owls at the rows of adolescent girls - their tee-shirts pulled tight over their corsets and tucked into the poodle skirts they wear over their jeans - neatly arrayed throughout haze. posted by Gena on Sunday, February 24, 2002 | link -------------------- Saturday, February 23, 2002The Swimmer. Ted Kennedy.The Hero of Chappaquiddick. The Captain of the S. S. Oldsmobile.How do I loathe thee; let me count the ways. I loathe thee for thine drunkenness; A monument thou art to the preserving power of drink. Thy lecherous arms I do detest, groping maidens that do fly thee. At Harvard didst thou cheat and carouse ‘Til expelled thou wert, tho’ thy father’s gold Did purchase thy place anew. Thou tax and spendest coin which is not thine, Whilst weeping for those whose pockets thou hast picked. Thy mistress Mary Jo thou left drowning in thy carriage, Whilst thou thyself didst swim to shore, Thine lawyers to consult and thine career to save. How do I loathe thee, let me count the ways. I apologize for this temporary outbreak of poetry. Mere prose was not enough. Sanity will resume immediately. posted by Lee Ann on Saturday, February 23, 2002 | link There is no joy in Toonville. Chuck Jones, creator of Bugs Bunny, Porky Pig, and Daffy Duck, is dead at 89. His creations are brilliant. Modern cartoons can’t hold a candle to them. Jones and his comrades drew a world of wit, action and merriment. The didactic, hectoring, mushy, product-placement ‘toons of today pale in comparison. True genius is rare; losing true genius is tragic. posted by Lee Ann on Saturday, February 23, 2002 | link The Burke and Hare Crematorium. Here is the best story I’ve seen on the Noble, Ga. crematorium scandal. I don’t know about Knoxville, but this is the only thing anybody I know has been talking about. There has to be some twisted psychological aspect to this situation that we have yet to be informed of. Wouldn’t it have been easier to cremate the bodies than to store them for a decade or two? Was Marsh some kind of body collector? Can you sell embalmed body parts? I know you can’t eat them. I think you really have to tap into a kind of primordial evil to be able to do something like this. This is one of the most viscerally disturbing stories I’ve come across in a long time. posted by Lee Ann on Saturday, February 23, 2002 | link Yes, Eugenia, there is bias in Europe. The problem with the European press is not bias per se. All journalists have biases; indeed, all people do. The problem lies in the “closed shop” nature of European press. The liberal biases of the American press are held in check by the vocal presence of a strong conservative movement. The rise of the Internet and of Fox news ended the CNN/ network monopoly on news reporting. The more balanced American media environment acts as a “checks and balances” system for the news. The Europeans don’t have this political diversity in their media. The ideals of Modern Conservatism have been demonized and marginalized for 50 years. There is no strong, consistent conservative movement in Europe. This has created a media that does not have to deal with challenges to its world view. Liberalism becomes normalized as mainstream thought and Conservatism is seen to be, at best, old-fashioned and, at worst, fascist. The lack of philosophical diversity in the European press has skewed its perceptions to the point that they honestly don’t realize that they are ignoring half the story. posted by Lee Ann on Saturday, February 23, 2002 | link I love Billy Bob Thornton, though not as much as I slavishly adore a certain anonymous someone else, who incidentally is just about as likely to return my affection or even notice my existence as BB himself, but I digress. Loving BB as I do, I went to see Monster's Ball tonight. It's a good movie, one I'd recommend. On the other hand, once, just once I'd really like to see a movie about the South where the majority of the characters were not poor, degenerate, white trash rednecks trying to cope with their poor, degenerate, black neighbors. I understand this would be pushing the artistic envelope and asking viewers to enter into that magic realist fantasy land where not everyone in the South is poor, stupid, and backwards, and apt to color code their associates. However, who says experimental film is dead? posted by Gena on Saturday, February 23, 2002 | link From the Nasty-Recalcitrant-Biased-Anti-American-Europeans Department. Can I honestly believe that the European press isn't biased? No, actually I can't. What I actually believe is that every press has its bias: their press, our press, the devil's press, God's press. The real question is always who has the bigger motivation to lie. In this case, I would say that would be "us," since it is after all our war. posted by Gena on Saturday, February 23, 2002 | link Dick Cheney is being sued by the GAO. This seems to be an equal opportunity scandal, but that doesn't mean that the Administration didn't have its finger in the pie, just that everybody else did as well. This is no doubt why Cheney is reluctant to turn over the list - it's hard to look innocent when the jam is stuck to your hands. Pie? What pie? There's no pie here. Honest. posted by Gena on Saturday, February 23, 2002 | link Lee Ann forwarded me the link to this story, and although there's no limit to the things I could say about it, I thought it would be best to leave the talking to a party directly concerned. I'm therefore yielding the floor to Dante - freshly washed, newly clipped, and mad as Hell. "As a dog, I am shocked and horrified by the story of the Florida woman who after a fight with her boyfriend kidnapped his 12 year old German Shepherd, whom she then proceeded to have euthanized. I don't claim to be a St. Bernard; I'm far too small for that; however, I do hold firmly to the belief that the infliction of equal or superior damage upon those who harm you is ethically unjustifiable, and more than that that it leads far too often to the death or destruction of innocents - in this case the dog. And the willingness to sacrifice someone else's life in the service of your own agenda is something I find quite frankly appalling. A professor once insisted to Gena that the solution to the problems of the world would be for women to run it - since women, all women, were innately peaceful, loving, and good. I'd say, however, that the solution to the problems of the world would be for it to be run by people, men and women, who saw themselves and those around them as individuals with their own intrinsic and irreplaceable value, and who did not see others as pieces on a chessboard to be advanced or eliminated in the service of the advancement of their side of the game." -- Dante
I'd only add that Ms.Terrilynn Ellsworth-Wooten is an evil little slime who deserved much more than probation and community service. That court should have kicked her ass. posted by Gena on Saturday, February 23, 2002 | link -------------------- Friday, February 22, 2002Fellow children of the Eighties . . . It has just occurred to me that we are very likely going to go this entire war without having to listen to the moronic blather of Michael Stipe. No rehashed Sixties platitudes; no stupid T-shirts. It is impossible to convey how happy this makes me unless you, too, grew up amidst the dis-stipe-als.posted by Lee Ann on Friday, February 22, 2002 | link Man Dies After Falling on Coffee Mug. Oh, the humanity. posted by Lee Ann on Friday, February 22, 2002 | link Shock, horror, disgust, rage. These are the only words I can call up to describe my reaction to the honor killings described in this article. Honor? Since when is murder and mutilation honorable? I could not look at the pictures. I do not have the vocabulary to express the revulsion I feel. posted by Lee Ann on Friday, February 22, 2002 | link Big Brother is watching you. The European Union, those fearless defenders of freedom and justice, are trying to censor alleged "hate speech" on the Internet. I suppose it would be gauche of me to ask who defines "hate speech" or "xenophobia." Does this mean that France will finally have to do something to contain the outbreak of anti-semitism sweeping across their fair plains? Will Gaul and Old Blighty take action against the violent Islamist rhetoric which is inciting violence in their inner cities? Will anti-white and anti-Christian hate speech be punished as severely as anti-minority and anti-Islamic speech? Of course not. This is just another power grab from unelected beaurocrats who refuse to do anything about the incendiary subversives that are live and in the flesh in their own countries. Methinks this law will be used to stamp out the growing right-wing dissent that is currently starting to flex its Euromuscles. Europe's fearless leaders are unwilling to take action to thwart the real dangers within their countries, but they will fight to the death to defend their subjects' virgin ears from any stray, unvarnished opinions. posted by Lee Ann on Friday, February 22, 2002 | link -------------------- Thursday, February 21, 2002Remember the good old days when the Olympics were actually fun to watch, when from beneath that thin veneer of support for international peace, cooperation, and brotherly love the real spirit of the games revealed itself in swells of patriotic pride and cries of cheater, cheater, pumpkin eater? Well, the Russians and South Koreans are here to remind you. Whether or not there actually is a conspiracy - the controversy actually occasioned some discussion at last night's German table - at least we ancient pre-fall-of-the-wall Cold War kids can finally get our nostalgia fix. Go USA, win that hockey game in the name of freedom! Yeah, Baby, Yeah!posted by Gena on Thursday, February 21, 2002 | link From the Big Brother is Watching You department. The Washington Post reports that over half of the world's major companies "monitor" employees' internet activity with software designed to watch for questionable phrases and content. According to the article, the technology is spreading to schools and universities, which begs the question: Where in the heck are the people standing up and screaming bloody murder. Anyone? Somebody scream! posted by Gena on Thursday, February 21, 2002 | link These are the times that try women's souls. Here we have a link to a series of rape-murders in the Mexican city of Ciudad Juarez. The body count is somewhere around 270 since 1993. Activists are screaming for an Inter-American task force to tackle the case, and I whole-heartedly agree. Seems the local cops have been ignoring the problem for years. I recall reading somewhere else that the girls are stalked by rape gangs who organize for this specific purpose. The FBI (or the relevant U. S. law enforcement agency) should be called in, even if they technically have no jurisdiction. I think the Mexican police are hopelessly corrupt and incapable of handling this. The civilized part of me wants a full investigation, forensic analysis, and "Nuremburg" type trials. The uncivilized part of me says "Daisy Cutter." posted by Lee Ann on Thursday, February 21, 2002 | link The world is not coming to an end! So says The Skeptical Environmentalist, aka Bjorn Lomborg. Lomborg is a statistician and former Greenpeace activist who was challenged to prove his environmentalist dogma. He found that the Earth is healthier, greener, and nowhere near collapse. He must be on to something because he has been denounced with an orgasmic hysteria by the greenies. If he were a crank, they would have just disproved his claims. Instead he has been insulted, demonized, and creamed with a pie at Oxford. Not bad for a guy who wrote a book with 2,930 footnotes and a 70 page bibliography. The environmental movement has been left unscrutinised for far too long. They throw out reams of statistics that nobody in the media ever bothers to verify. This has allowed the enviros to get both cocky and sloppy. The rise of the Internet and the growing conservative elements in the media have led to the debunking of a number of enviro claims. The recent debacles regarding the Klamath water wars and Lynxgate have severely undermined the public's confidence in the environmental movement. Lomborg's book may be just the thing to get the enviro movement back to a solid grounding in reality. In re your last global warming post: February has always been shorts and T-shirt weather in Alabama. posted by Lee Ann on Thursday, February 21, 2002 | link Excellent work on the whole love deal. The sexual harrassment and Nehring posts are great. As for Nehring, the idea of female responsibility for her own love life is long overdue. The UNLV policy sounds like a CYA situation through and through. My alma mater charges rape victims with values violations and fines them. Seriously, 3 years ago a girl was raped on the bridge that connects the dorms to the main campus. She was too scared to press charges so good old Same-ford charged her with the values violation and fined her for sex on campus. posted by Lee Ann on Thursday, February 21, 2002 | link Sorry to break your heart, but the detainees are being treated just fine. The "sensory deprivation" you are complaining about consists of blindfolds and shackles and occurs only when the detainees are being transported in and out of sensitive areas at Gitmo. This is done to prevent reconnaissance activities and another Mazar-i-sharif type uprising. Contrast the treatment of the detainees with that of their American guards. The European press is highly unreliable in their coverage of the A-stan campaign. They are hard leftists and all their stories about Gitmo abuses have been refuted by the Red Cross. posted by Lee Ann on Thursday, February 21, 2002 | link -------------------- Wednesday, February 20, 2002In commemoration of the demise of my love life, I'm devoting this next post to the theme of love, specifically to Christina Nehring whose smack down of excessive sexual harassment laws and prohibitions against professors dating students deserves to be read (see below for a fine example why) and is one of the reasons that Harpers Magazine needs a web index. Fortunately, Nehring also writes for the Atlantic, which does have a web index. Her takedown of dating advice books is not one of her better articles, if for no other reason than she seems to think that Ovid was writing about Love - you know true, romantic love as opposed to bald faced seduction. She also fails either to pick up on or at the very least to point out the irony implicit in advising a woman to be passive by MAKING a man pursue her, and she seems to put a bit too much weight on women being romantically adventuresome. I have no doubt women are romantically adventuresome, but the question is still raised as to the ethics of taking someone else along for your romantic thrill ride. Maybe I'm just square and not any fun, but I honestly think that if you're looking for adventure, you should try an African safari, and I'm more than certain that Nehring would not want to be dragged along on some guy's jeep trip through the jungle. Though who knows. Everybody's different and you can never know who will be turned on by the prospect of a mouthful of leaves and a fiery crash into a tree. On the other hand, the article does do a good job of proving that if you're having trouble messing up your love life all by yourself, there are always others waiting to help.posted by Gena on Wednesday, February 20, 2002 | link Lee Ann, remember your post about the Saudi woman who was raped and whipped for it? Well, you're going to love this from the University of Nevada, Las Vegas. "When a romantic or sexual relationship exists, both parties involved may be subject to disciplinary action. Both parties are equally responsible for reporting the existence of the relationship to the appropriate supervisor at the beginning of the relationship... Once the university administration learns of a romantic or sexual relationship, whether through self-reporting or otherwise, it will take immediate steps to eliminate the power or authority of the one individual over the other."
Ok, so the supposedly powerless student in the presumably exploitative relationship is subject to disciplinary action for being involved in the relationship outlawed for her protection. This makes a whole lot of sense to me. Guess I'm just not theoretically sophisticated enough to appreciate the nuances of this fine example of my empowerment. How sad that all those years of grad school didn't learn me a thing. Damn. posted by Gena on Wednesday, February 20, 2002 | link You know what? Maybe I'm just in a really bad mood, but this really boils my goat. The Spiegel reports that "we're" using sensory deprivation against the prisoners in Cuba in order to break them before interrogation. The prisoners are also subject to indefinite detention, have no access to counsel or to their families, and it would seem are to be held without trial. One of the things I've always loved and admired about the US is its Constitution and its legal and judicial enforcement of the principle of basic human rights. By basic human rights I mean simply the principle that all people regardless of who they are or what they have done have a right to a basic standard of treatment, both in regard to each other and in regard to the state. The prisoners in Cuba may be terrorists, and they may be killers, but our treatment of them indicates something far worse - namely that we have thrown out our former definition of human rights for one that can indeed be summed up by George Orwell's statement, "all animals are equal but some animals are more equal than others." Translated that means that rights are now to be granted on the basis of virtue and of citizenship, not on the grounds of simple humanity. This is dangerous and more than that it makes me sad. posted by Gena on Wednesday, February 20, 2002 | link -------------------- Tuesday, February 19, 2002Yes! Yes!! Yes!!! This article on George Washington by Thomas Sowell finally says what I have never been articulate enough to say. This is why Washington is great. This is why Washington is my hero. George Washington, Father of Freedom. Without Washington there would have been no America, no real democracy, and no civil or human rights for us to argue over. The Revolution would have fallen apart without him. Europe would never (in fact, has never) come up with the truly representative government we enjoy. Everybody talks about freedom, but only George Washington did something about it.posted by Lee Ann on Tuesday, February 19, 2002 | link It seems the Saudi lashing story you linked to earlier is worse than we thought. The woman who was sentenced to jail time and 65 lashes was raped. The court announced it had determined that the sex was not consensual (i.e. she was raped). The court sentenced her to jail and lashing for the crime of being raped. This is what Sharia law has been doing all over the Islamic world. How is this justice in any sense of the word? Sorry, all cultures are not equal. Cultures that sentence a rape victim to 65 lashes for being assaulted are far less civilized than cultures that don't. I try hard to be respectful and tolerant of Islam, but the Muslims aren't helping me any. posted by Lee Ann on Tuesday, February 19, 2002 | link -------------------- Monday, February 18, 2002Dude!!! Granted Alice B. and I both have dogs, but therein end the similarities between us. Although imperialism is like feminism a word you can tack on to basically anything no matter how contradictory, and sailing down the hill about what it does or does not mean is therefore perhaps pointless, I for one would not say that occupying A-stan and installing a democratic system of government there would be imperialistic. To me, for something to be imperialistic it has to be economically and politically exploitative and detrimental to the welfare of the people of the country. Therefore, although I would consider the actions we took in Japan and Germany after WWII to be stringent and in the short term oppressive, I would not consider them imperialistic, since they were taken with the goal of ensuring that both countries developed into stable democracies, and more importantly accomplished it. Had we been less forceful, that is to say had we said, "Ah, let the poor, oppressed, war torn Germans and Japanese make up their own government," things might have been very different, and in fact they probably would have been, since it was the "bad guys" in both countries who were in the best position to take control.My recommendation was that we do something similar in A-stan. That doesn't mean making it into the 51st state, nor does it mean that the people of A-stan have no right to rule themselves. What it does mean is that in the interest of America, the world, and the Afghans, the Afghans should rule themselves well, and we should make bloody certain that they do so - both by regulating who can hold what position (like we did in Germany), by making sure that there is public order, and by rebuilding the country physically, economically, and institutionally. My complaint was that we don't have the presence on the ground to do that, nor have we made the monetary investment rebuilding the country would take. Yes, that's nation building. Yes, it's imposing our values on other people who might not share them. On the other hand, we've done it before and I honestly don't think either the Germans or the Japanese would say that it would have been better if we had left them to their own devices with a provisional government and a peace keeping force. posted by Gena on Monday, February 18, 2002 | link Britain Apologizes for Accidently Invading Spain How do you accidently invade another country? Uh, Mom. I was out with Gena and, well, we only had one drink each I swear but there was this amphibious assault vehicle and we just wanted to see how it handled . . . No wonder we act unilaterally. posted by Lee Ann on Monday, February 18, 2002 | link IMHO, the war in Afghanistan is going great. We have ousted the Taliban, installed an interim government that will in 2 years make way for Afghanistan's first popularly elected regime, forced state sponsors of terrorism to curb their Islamofascists, and given the hope of freedom to millions of oppressed people around the globe. While the fact that innocent civilians in Afghanistan have been killed is tragic, those deaths are solely the fault of the Taliban. If they had not sponsored Al Qaeda or had turned over OBL there would have been no bombing. Even the Afghanis admit that. Yes, I will find the link on that statement. You complain that we haven't taken control of Afghanistan (that country is way too long to type, I propose a shorthand version), Well, what are we supposed to do? Colonize the place? Make it the 51st state? If we did you'd be screaming about imperialism. There will likely be a powerful international presence in the A-stan in the form of the U. N. Why should the U.S. have to install the Marines as a de facto Senate? Karzai is keeping things as under control as best he can, considering the roving bands of unsurrendered Taliban that still plague his nation. The fact that Iran was fostering internal dissent through rival tribal leaders has caused more problems than U. S. intervention. After 20 years of the U. S. S. R., rival warlords, and the Taliban, don't you think the Afghans deserve the chance to rule themselves? And what do comparative casualty rates have to do with anything? Do the Afghan casualty rates have to equal the WTC rates? The war in A-stan is not an "eye for an eye" deal. The U. S. military killed far more German and Japanese civilians that vice versa. Were we wrong to fight WWII? As a matter of fact, if the War on Terror is wrong, how should we have dealt with OBL and Al Qaeda? Clintonian appeasement didn't work. posted by Lee Ann on Monday, February 18, 2002 | link Sorry to disappoint you Gena, but the casualty reports you cite are not quite accurate. Experts now place the number of Afghan casualties somewhere in the mid-hundreds. Seems the Taliban used their total control of the Afghani media for propaganda purposes. They forced the media to report Al Qaeda casualties as civilian ones and altered press releases to support their propaganda efforts. Casualty numbers were also too high because journalists would interview bombing survivors and tally up the dead, all the while neglecting the fact that the witnesses were describing the same incident. This is called ''double counting''. It is also called sloppy journalism. posted by Lee Ann on Monday, February 18, 2002 | link -------------------- Sunday, February 17, 2002The Atlantic also has a collection of articles dealing with the conflict between security and civil liberties. I haven't read through them yet, but they should be interesting.posted by Gena on Sunday, February 17, 2002 | link A writer for the Atlantic says that the number of civilians killed during the war in Afghanistan exceeds the number of people killed in the Sept. 11 attacks. It's a short piece and not very well sourced - at least it doesn't appear to be - but since I'm against war in general and think this one a disaster, I'm including the article anyway. Why do I think the "war" has been a disaster? Well beyond the most obvious reasons that "we" didn't catch bin Laden, and don't control the ground - by controlling the ground I mean controlling it the way the Allies controlled say Germany after WWII where it's your troops who are holding the fort (all of it) and it's your rules which are running it - I think the war has left Afghanistan highly unstable, and likely to remain so; since we fought the war mainly by proxy and the people who fought it for us are now in control. Perhaps the Northern Alliance has changed over the years into a kinder, gentler, better organized, and more democratic Northern Alliance, but if they're anything like they were before, then they're a disorganized, power grubbing bunch of bandits; and if this is the case, then delivering the country from chaos and banditry will mean trying to oust the NA, probably militarily. Maybe I'm blind, but I don't see any signs that George would be willing to do that, especially since it would mean committing large numbers of American ground troops. This is only one of many reasons I think the war - if you can call it that - was an extremely bad idea to begin with, and has not been a rousing success, but since it is one of the ones touched upon in the article, I thought I'd elaborate. posted by Gena on Sunday, February 17, 2002 | link I'm sure this is obvious to everyone, but just in case it isn't: never have sex with a pregnant woman in Saudi Arabia. Yes, I know, I know, but there are still those who refuse to get with the program, like the idiot who got himself sentenced to 4750 lashes for doing just that. Don't worry though. In the interest of justice and the fulfillment of the sentence the lashes will be distributed throughout his six year prison term, and should work out to around 95 lashes a year. The man's wife - let it not be said that the Saudis aren't fair - got 65 lashes and 6 months (From the Spiegel) . posted by Gena on Sunday, February 17, 2002 | link Bad news from the SCLS. The civil rights group just elected a new leader. Oops, he's white. Now there is a big scandal and the race hustlers are protesting that they don't want to be led by a white guy. Isn't the point of the civil rights movement to see people as people and not as skin colors? What happened to ''the content of our characters?'' posted by Lee Ann on Sunday, February 17, 2002 | link I just got off Lucianne. A poster gave a great definition of libertarianism. He called it ''romantic Republicanism: a right-wing denial of original sin.'' I won't link to it as it is mired in a roundtable thread. posted by Lee Ann on Sunday, February 17, 2002 | link According to this article in the Spiegel (in German) the oceans are rising and the polar ice caps are melting faster than at first thought. This makes sense to me since everyone here in Knoxville is talking about the lovely, sunny, and unusually warm weather. I mean this is great and all, but it's freaking February and people are wearing short sleeves. There's something profoundly wrong about that, and even though I'm all about the ocean, I'm still not sure I'm ready for my front yard to be a beach and Texas to be a swamp. Pass the sunscreen. posted by Gena on Sunday, February 17, 2002 | link -------------------- |
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